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November 12th, 2022 20:00

Dell Percision 5820 tower can not start

I bought my dell tower with the top build parts last year(2021).

 

Today, it suddenly can not start as usual.

 

I followed the online technical service to reset the power by unplugging the power and pressing the power button for the 20s.

 

It works the first time, then I keep working with my workstation for a day.

 

Then suddenly it can not start again, this time getting worse. I can not start the workstation by resetting the power.

 

And Dell promises to send a technician to help. for your information, I have waited from Thursday 3rd Nov until 8st Nov 2021 to get a technician to help.

 

Dell sends the motherboard to the technician and asks them to replace it, however, workstation 5820 is not the regular type of Dell product, and the technicians are not trained to disassemble the machine. 

 

So the technician decided to help me test data rather than tearing the machine apart, which might cause extra damage.

 

The reason that technician doesn't suggest I replace the motherboard was due to two reasons.

First, Dell didn't send the motherboard properly, and the part might have already been damaged from transition(the technician showed me the part of the motherboard already split),

Second, the technician didn't train to replace this particular type of device and he told me most Dell technicians didn't train to fix this complex type of device, so there was no technician who would answer this case, which keep me waiting longer than usual.

 

I asked him what if the problems happen again, and what would he suggest I do with it. He told me the better way is to send the workstation back to Dell and let a professional run the test for it.

 

After the data test, everything seems ok and the technician helps me to reset the power and sleep mode from hybrid to regular mode, which he assumes might cause the abnormal start problem.

 

After he has gone, the workstation works normally for days.

 

Today the problem shows again, I went to Dell's website and the online assistant told me they will send technician to help.

 

Can you all see the problems of this?

1. Assistants can not figure out what might be the problem.

2. Online assistant decided to send a technician who does not know how to deal with this kind of device.

3. Online service told me I can not send the device back to Dell(they only accept laptops for this), which is what their onsite technician suggest I ask Dell for a box to send it back if the problem happened again.

4. Technicians don't know how to disassemble the device to replace the motherboard might cause damage to the workstation, also the motherboard is already damaged from the transition. Who should be responsible if the data from the workstation damaged by this unthoughtful action?

 

I suggested all my friends and family pick Dell as their first choice before. I've changed my mind at this moment.

 

I spent more than $5000 to expect a better sales service, not like this.

 

Here is the quote from my 5820 towers.

Quantity Subtotal

Precision 5820 Tower
Estimated delivery if purchased today:
Mar. 15, 2021

$4,687.34 1 $4,687.34

Description SKU Unit Price Quantity Subtotal
Precision 5820 Tower XCTO Base 210-ANJK - 1 -
Intel(R) Core9(TM) i9-10940X 3.3GHz,(4.8GHz Turbo,14C, 19.25MB
Cache, HT, (165W) DDR4-2933 Non-ECC)

338-BUNP

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1 -
Intel(R) Core(TM) i9 Label 389-CGEV - 1 -
CPU Heatsink 5820 Tower 412-AALF - 1 -
Windows 10 Pro, 64bit English 619-ANUF - 1 -
Intel NVMe PCIe SSD (Front PCIe FlexBay) 414-BBBV - 1 -
Intel Integrated controller (RST-e) with 1-2 Front FlexBay NVMe PCIe
Drives

321-BDWI

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1 -
Dell M.2 carrier 400-AVDR - 1 -
M.2 1TB PCIe NVMe Class 40 Solid State Drive 401-ABJR - 1 -
Dell M.2 carrier 400-AVDR - 1 -
M.2 1TB PCIe NVMe Class 40 Solid State Drive 401-ABJR - 1 -
No Hard Drive 400-AKZR - 1 -
No Hard Drive 400-AKZR - 1 -
No Hard Drive 400-AKZR - 1 -
No Hard Drive 400-AKZR - 1 -
No Optical 429-ABER - 1 -
Slim filler panel (no opt.) 429-ABEP - 1 -
No RAID 780-BBCJ - 1 -
Dell Limited Hardware Warranty Plus Service 997-7163 - 1 -
Onsite/In-Home Service After Remote Diagnosis, 3 Years 997-7165 - 1 -
Nvidia Quadro RTX5000, 16GB, 4DP, VirtualLink (XX20T) 490-BFFI - 1 -
Adapter 6+2 connector to 2x 6+2 connectors RTX chassis 492-BCQN - 1 -
Precision 5820 Tower Core X 950W PCIe FlexBay Chassis CL 321-BFGM - 1 -
T5820 950W Regulatory Label (DAO) 389-CGKH - 1 -
Placemat 5820 Tower MUI DAO 340-BYNM - 1 -
64GB, 4x16GB, DDR4 UDIMM non-ECC memory 370-AFGJ - 1 -
US Power Cord 470-AAKG - 1 -
Thank You for Choosing Dell 340-ADBJ - 1 -
No Additional Network Card Selected (Integrated NIC included) 555-BBJO - 1 -
Page 2 Dell Marketing LP. U.S. only. Dell Marketing LP. is located at One Dell Way, Mail Stop 8129, Round Rock, TX 78682

SERI Guide (ENG/FR/Multi) 340-AGIK - 1 -
No Stand included 575-BBCH - 1 -
GPT is 100% required for all order 411-XXYB - 1 -
No Accessories 461-AABV - 1 -
No Microsoft Office License Included – 30 day Trial Offer Only 658-BCSB - 1 -
OS-Windows Media Not Included 620-AALW - 1 -
Trusted Platform Module (Discrete TPM Enabled) 329-BBJL - 1 -
Dell Optimizer for Precision 640-BBSC - 1 -
Resource DVD not Included 430-XXYU - 1 -
No Out-of-Band Systems Management 631-ABML - 1 -
Ship Material Tower 5820,7820 328-BCRU - 1 -
SHIP,PWS,LNK,NO,NO,AMF 340-AEYP - 1 -
Performance Optimized 370-AAIP - 1 -
BIOS match checked back to factory 444-BBBG - 1 -
BIOS binary check enabled and verified 444-BBBS - 1 -
SupportAssist 525-BBCL - 1 -
Dell(TM) Digital Delivery Cirrus Client 640-BBLW - 1 -
Enable Low Power Mode 658-BBMQ - 1 -
Dell Developed Recovery Environment 658-BCUV - 1 -
Not ENERGY STAR Qualified 387-BBBE - 1 -
No Additional Keyboard 580-ABIS - 1 -
No Anti-Virus Software 650-AAAM - 1 -
Firmware and Driver for Intel 8265 Wi-Fi + Bluetooth module 555-BEVY - 1 -
Intel® Dual Band Wireless AC 8265 (802.11ac) 2x2 + Bluetooth module 555-BEVZ - 1 -
Intel Dual Band Wireless AC 8265 (802.11ac) 2x2 + Bluetooth module 555-BEWB - 1 -
No UPC Label 389-BCGW - 1 -

Subtotal:
Shipping:
Estimated Tax:
Total:

$4,687.34
$0.00
$398.46
$5,085.80

 

Maybe someone from the community can help me to find out what might cause the starting problem.

Also, I would like to hear any suggestions from you about how should communicate with Dell.

I really want my workstation to get fixed but I don't want Dell to keep doing the wrong decision for me, please tell me the best way to do it if you have any thoughts.

 

 

 

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November 13th, 2022 05:00

Sorry to hear about all the troubles.

If it can be started after a further reset, I would disable the Sleep mode in bios entirely, and start from there. Anyway either there are a lot of people with your issue that are not posting here, or actually the motherboard is worth being changed (personal opinion).

This seems , by your words, a glitch that started after a certain time, and from that point keeps repeating. It could be a slight defect in a component of the motherboard, could be a bios update or any low level update triggering a random malfunction into a component that maybe by bad luck is not 100% as should be as specs, etc ( could be the psu not recovering from an induced state ).

Sadly you are correct about the onsite support... the volumes of these systems (sales) are not high and the subcontracting companies tend to spend time "teaching" their techs about the most common to be repaired units ( when I had need for a fix, I directed the tech in what to disassemble and the order.. since I studied the hw manual. For him it was the first time seeing a 7820 and I'm 200% sure he wasn't shown a manual for it )

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November 13th, 2022 07:00

Hello,

Thank you for your answer. I think you are mostly right about these. Also, thank you for the diagnosis and explanation. I know it better right now. Now I am waiting for Dell to send the box to pick up my 5820.

Last night, I try to copy the rest of the files and went to Dell website to update the software, I update almost all the websites suggest and after I turn off the power, I can not open it again. So I am not sure what may cause the issue right now. 

 

Also, I saw others post on this community have the same issue happened on Dell 5820. I am really worrying right now.

I will update the result here and share the experience after Dell fixes it.

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November 14th, 2022 10:00

Sorry about that. I am now waiting for Dell to send me the box then send it back to Dell, which need to cost another 7-10 days they mentioned. Dell don’t care about you need to work with the device or not…I really don’t know what the process Dell is making right now. Also, if you change the MB, careful your software License, because they only recognize the last MB you have. I find other articles about dell 5820, seems there’s always a problem about bios updating. My 5820 can still open if I unplug it for a while. So I’m really thinking just let it open all the time and rest with the sleep mode.

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November 14th, 2022 10:00

Same issue here with my 5820. Waiting for a tech to arrive with a new MB. Problem started the day after a dell support update. I was able to get it started once, after many tries, but now, nothing.

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November 17th, 2022 06:00

It took 2 days for the new (refurb) motherboard to arrive. The tech replaced it and my system is back up and running. I have disabled automatic Dell Command updates so it doesn't update the bios and brick the system again, I hope.

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November 17th, 2022 10:00

I currently let my desktop remain open. Only use sleep mode to save power. Dell sent me the box but I really don't have 7-10 days for them to run the check at this moment. Also, another user mentioned that some of the software must register again because some high-end programs recognize the same MB ID. I can not imagine how difficult it going to be when I got a fixed Desktop and I still need to deal with all the program reinstallation. Btw @rmaston , go to this article, the user's Dell went down again after Dell claim to fix it. https://www.dell.com/community/Precision-Fixed-Workstations/Precision-5820-motherboard-failure/m-p/8155969 

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