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November 26th, 2024 18:36

Super cool way to install Windows 11 Bypass CPU/TPM/Secure boot on Unsupported Hardware

mock Distiller contest: how many ways do you know you can install Windows 11 in Optiplex or other Dell PC that has lower than 8th gen cpu and no secure boot or TPM?

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November 27th, 2024 13:44

Here it is.  

Last ace up your sleeve... create a hybrid Windows 10/11 USB flash drive. Use Windows 10 Media Creation Tool to create a Windows 10 64-bit USB. Then download latest Windows 11 ISO from Microsoft support site and mount it (Open with File Explorer). Navigate to folder sources and copy the file install.esd Open the same folder in the USB, delete the file install.esd from the folder and paste the one from the ISO. That's it.  Boot with this USB to install Windows 11 without compatibility check.
Who needs rufus or regedits etc.
Nice one.  It opens like Win 10 but it is actually doing Win 11.  I tried it on a 6th gen Inspiron.  Will try it on a 2nd gen Optiplex or Core 2 duo soon

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November 26th, 2024 18:39

internet has at least two widely quoted ways:

https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/bypass-windows-11-tpm-requirement

SHIFT + F10 to open the Command Prompt. and launch registry editor during Win 11 install

Rufus to create a modified Win 11 installation media USB

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November 26th, 2024 18:52

appraiserres.dll file.....

What is this file for?

This is the file that checks for Windows 11 compatibility (secure boot, TPM, CPU, etc.) when trying to install Windows 11. When deleted all compatibility checks are skipped.

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November 26th, 2024 18:53

but there is yet a super cool and sneaky way too.  does anyone know?  I ran into it and tested it.  it works.

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November 27th, 2024 04:28

Yes, there are many different ways.  If you are system builders, just need two.  One to be used with unsupported systems and one for supported systems, including soft floor.

Actually, many systems that have lower than 8th gen CPU are supporting installation without bypass.  As long as the systems have UEFI, Secure Boot and TPM enabled.  Haswell, 4th gen and up.  Anything lower will need bypass or won't work due to new requirements for CPU.

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January 17th, 2025 02:03

@Chino de Oro​ 

1. If you are system builders, just need two.  One to be used with unsupported systems and one for supported systems, including soft floor.

2. Actually, many systems that have lower than 8th gen CPU are supporting installation without bypass.  As long as the systems have UEFI, Secure Boot and TPM enabled.  

1. "System Builder" are working this far back in time/tech ? Really ? Can you maybe catch-up to at least 7-years ago?

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/minimum/supported/windows-11-supported-intel-processors

2. They are stopping you for a reason. Since they stopped-us at 8th gen (i5-8500, i7-8700, etc.) not sure I would go much lower that 7th-Gen (as long as everything else passes like TPM-2.0).

https://www.dell.com/community/en/conversations/windows-general-wiki/alienware-aurora-r6-upgrade-to-windows-11/647fa0c1f4ccf8a8de5d240f

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January 17th, 2025 02:06

quote Dell

"fans who have a deep appreciation for technology and a can-do attitude for manually customizing their build to their needs."

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January 17th, 2025 03:19

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quote Dell

"fans who have a deep appreciation for technology and a can-do attitude for manually customizing their build to their needs."

I get it, and I suppose it's fine if you are just playing games on it, or testing hardware.

But since this is the Optiplex forum, there are likely some business people here (who need to do real-work on their computers). Maybe Accounting, Payroll, Security, or other important things. They are looking for real, viable solutions.

I like your attitude, but I'm no "yes man". I'm just try to help and I'm gonna tell you like I see it. Keep up the good work buddy...

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February 2nd, 2025 13:55

@redxps630​ 

Will this upgrade my current install or over write it? I’m going to backup files, but it would be nice not to have to reinstall.

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February 2nd, 2025 16:11

I have only used this to do clean install by choosing custom mode (“advanced”) and manually delete all existing partitions which would wipe all old data (superficially).

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February 2nd, 2025 20:05

There's also the setup /product server method.  I've never used it.

I just opted for the manual retail ISO with F10 method.  It's tedious, though.  Might opt for using Rufus in the future.

Currently running latest Windows 11 24H2 on two Dell circa 2008 X58 desktops in the house - a Dell XPS 435T/9000 and a Dell XPS 435MT.  Caveats on the 435T/9000 is I haven't yet resolved driver issues causing crash on resume from Sleep - workaround for now is to set Sleep to Never.  The 435MT has no new Windows 11 issues, I believe just the audio stutter issue that was also present in Windows 10 - same resolution:  1) Switch to ATA (IDE) mode in the BIOS or leave in RAID mode but install old Intel RST 11.7.4.1001 drivers.

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February 2nd, 2025 20:37

I had both models too but opted to sell off the 435MT which on the outside looks same as Dell studio 540S mini tower.

I kept the 9000/9100 full tower both of which are studio XPS by Dell model definition.

The best Dell x58 is 730x tower or some ppl like the Area 51 Phobos which uses same motherboard.  A female companion to that is Aurora R1 which has mATX x58.  

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March 25th, 2025 03:30

@redxps630​ 

Hi,

The file from the Win 11 IS0 is "install.wim."

The one on the USB is "install. "

So I delete the "esd" file from the USB and replace it with the "wim" file from the ISO?

There is no install.esd on the ISO.  They are both large files.

esd is 4.063GB and the 

wim is 4.89GB.

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March 25th, 2025 14:12

it has been a while.  reading my solution I suppose that is correct.  the trick essentially replaces win 10 install large file with the Win 11 one.

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March 27th, 2025 02:02

@redxps630​ 

How did you get around the fact that Windows Media Creator formats the USB with FAT32, even if you had formatted in NTFS.  Then when you try to replace the files on the USB with the "wim" file from Windows 11, it is too large for the FAT32 size limit.

Why does the Media Creation Tool force the FAT32 format?

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