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July 19th, 2017 09:00
Going very old school. BTX form factor
I have a NOS D955XCS mobo I need to get into service.
Made by Intel and I believe used in early versions of the Dell XPS series.
Here is my problem. It is about an inch too long for the Dimension 9100 case I had planned on using it in. Board to tray holes are off by just about that much.
Old BTX cases can be found out there. Usually at a decent price.
Shipping being more then the price of the case.
What I am asking is, just what Dell model case is large enough to accept this board.
Thanks in advance.
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speedstep
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September 7th, 2017 11:00
Dell XPS 410 Desktop Motherboard- WG855
Part Numbers: CT017, WG885, JH484, WJ668
D37070-xxx DQ965CO
XPS410 is the Intel P965 Express
BOXDP965LTCK LGA 775
Intel® 965 Express Chipset Family Boards
(click to go to support page)
Find Support by Board AA Number for Intel® Desktop Boards
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/boards-and-kits/000005624.html
0ldsch00l
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July 19th, 2017 10:00
The mounting hole pattern is not the real problem. The hole pattern on both tray and board match perfectly.
The case size, to short(?) does not allow them to align.
After digging up the info available on the board it seems Inel made it for Dell.
References to it being used in the XPS series were found also.
However. There was a point when Dell went away from a more "custom" case for the XPS to a case closely resembling the Dimension.
Thus my follow up question. Which has not yet been Mod approved to appear, about Dimension case size(s).
0ldsch00l
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July 19th, 2017 10:00
Thanks Jesse L.
Perhaps your info may provide case dimensions?
I am pretty sure any BTX case larger then the Dimension 9100 would work.
Is the 9100 considered a mid or full size tower?
Just do not want to spend the $$ on having a wrong used case shipped to me.
Thanks for the reply.
DELL-Jesse L
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July 19th, 2017 10:00
0ldsch00l,
Unfortunately, I have no information on which Dell case the motherboard will fit it. My database does not provide me with this information.
speedstep
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July 19th, 2017 10:00
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/boards-and-kits/desktop-boards/legacy-intel-desktop-boards/intel-desktop-board-d955xcs.html
Most all Dell cases DO NOT USE standard mounting so I would say none.
Dell tends to mount the board into a tray and then slide in.
BTX on the other hand uses holes and spacers in SPECIFC locations.
DELL-Jesse L
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July 19th, 2017 11:00
0ldsch00l,
I hope this information helps you out.
The 9100 BTX Sleek design case is a mid size tower. Below are the dimensions.
Height 44.45 cm (17.5 inches)
Width 16.764 cm (6.6 inches)
Depth 44.45 cm (17.5 inches)
Mitac-designed, BTX case
0ldsch00l
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July 19th, 2017 16:00
Thanks again Jesse L.
Comparing those measurements to my 9100 seems to show me it is a mid size.
That answers that.
Would it be possible to get me the measurements of the BTX /XPS or Dimension full size towers?
The current model I have does not have the removable mobo tray, At least as far as I can see.
There are no "standard" mobo stand-offs as is the norm on all cases today.
There are actually stamped risers with threaded holes where screw in stand-offs would normally be.
The same with the processor heat sink,, fan shroud, and fan.
Which draws air directly from the front of the case as opposed to the more normal "fan directly on heat sink" setup.
0ldsch00l
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July 22nd, 2017 08:00
Thanks. Will follow up on those links.
My board measures 11.5 x 12.75 +/-
Sounds like you are correct on Dell`s naming scheme. 4 digit names may be mid-size while 3 digit are full size.
The bolt pattern and spacing are identical to the board currently in the 9100 case.
It is only the overall size of the D955XCS that will not allow it to fit.
0ldsch00l
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August 11th, 2017 19:00
The D955XCS board has 4 SATA 3 ports.
A total of 8 SATA ports available.
It is a BTX board. Just unable to confirm if Dell ever used it and in what case.
Quote direct from PDF manual.
"Up to eight Serial ATA channels (one device per channel)
— Four RAID capable Serial ATA (3.0 Gb/s) connectors (black) via the
ICH7R
— Four RAID capable Serial ATA (SATA) connectors (blue) via the discrete
controller"
speedstep
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August 18th, 2017 09:00
No such thing as socket 755. LGA 775, also known as Socket T.
I don't think INTEL D975XBG Fits.
0ldsch00l
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August 18th, 2017 09:00
Forgot to add that the E8500 is a Core2 Duo.
Also Optiplex boards are out as they do not have enough PCI slots available for my needs.
0ldsch00l
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August 18th, 2017 09:00
After narrowing it down to only the XPS 700/720 case fitting this board.
Then having no luck finding one.
As well as seeing old listings for ones where shipping alone made it cost prohibitive. Have decided to attack this from another direction.
I am now looking for a BTX board that will accept a Pentium E8500 3.16 GHz Socket 755.
A minimum 8 Gig of RAM. Preferably 4x2 as I already have the memory.
Needs to fit in a Dimension 9100 tower. Which is a mid-size case.
Thanks for any assistance.
0ldsch00l
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August 18th, 2017 17:00
My mistake on the 755 vs the correct 775.
Too many numbers swimming through my head.
Are both those pics of the D975XBG ?
Ran across the bottom shaped board on Ebay.
That board accepts 8 Gigs. 2x4
Though there are posts here on the Dell site with Users reporting 16 Gig works.
0ldsch00l
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August 22nd, 2017 09:00
FWIW.
Contacted a Seller of a D975XBG mobo.
You are correct SpeedStep. According to the board dimensions he gave it will not fit. It is almost as large as the D955XCS.
Have read that my current mobo, OEM in a Dell 9100.
With up to date Bios, A03, will work with 8 Gig. 2x4.
I had tried 4x2.
The Bios saw it but Win7 64 did not.
Then BSOD on the second start-up.
With the cost of shipping on a case being out of my build budget.
Being unable to find a suitable mobo for my existing case.
I am going to pick up 8G of 240 pin SDRAM, 2x4 and give it a try.
So far my cheapest option.
In the mean time may start trying to track down a mobo from a 9200.
Assuming it and the 9100 are both mid-tower.
I enjoy playing with the old legacy stuff.
Just a bit frustrating at times.
0ldsch00l
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August 25th, 2017 12:00
Can anyone tell me how picky Dell mobo`s are regarding memory voltages?
Mobo calls for 1.8v.
The memory I am looking at is 1.5v.
Have found the configuration of memory I want to try in 8Gig, 2x4, at 1.8v.
But the price jump is huge.