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inspiron 24 5410 alder lake I5 missing smbus/spi controller drivers
Latitude 7410
Windows 10: unable to find on Dell or Intel. drivers for the SPI & SMbus controllers (51A3.- 51A4) = I have downloaded the driver pack ME SW 2216 16 0 2805 supposedly to resolve issue, but still showing as missing drivers. Neither the Dell or Intel support apps find missing drivers!
What am I doing wrong?
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RoHe
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April 3rd, 2023 18:00
I'm confused...! Your post title says Inspiron 24 5410 but you selected the image of a Latitude 7410. So what's with that?
Did you reinstall Windows or did something else happen that contributed to this problem?
How/why did you select ME SW 2216 16 0 2805 that you installed? Did you let Intel's Support Assistant scan your PC for suitable drivers or...?
It sounds -to me- that you might be missing Intel Chipset drivers. Here's the link to the Inspiron 24 5410 Chipset drivers.
The latest Intel ME driver Dell offers for Inspiron 24 5410 is 2208.16.0.2718, A01. Since you've updated the ME driver to 2216 16 0 2805, there now could be a mismatch between that ME driver and the Chipset driver that Dell currently offers.
Strongly recommend you manually set a System Restore point and back up all your personal files on external media, before you attempt to install the Chipset driver from Dell's site.
RoHe
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April 4th, 2023 10:00
Neither of the Management Engine (ME) packages load the Intel Chipset drivers. That's a separate/stand-alone installation.
Use the link I posted above to manually download the Chipset installer. Launch the downloaded installer and follow the prompts.
robmar1se
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April 4th, 2023 04:00
Inspiron 24 5410 (intel). Device manager shows 3 items under "other", with yellow ?.
Quote "The latest Intel ME driver Dell offers for Inspiron 24 5410 is 2208.16.0.2718, A01."
This was originally installed but failed to load the drivers for the SMbus/SPI controllers, that's why I went to the Intel support assistant, but that failed too.
So the problem still exits
robmar1se
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April 4th, 2023 11:00
Many thanks for clarifying yr initial response, the driver you identified resolved the smbus/spi controller issues.
Brilliant
I have passed this on to Dell, as I spent 2 hours on the phone with them and got no where. I have passed on the info re the driver you identified, so they might include it in their support module for their Inspiron 24 5410
RoHe
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April 4th, 2023 12:00
Glad that solved the problem... !
You never explained why the Chipset drivers were missing. Did you reinstall Windows or were the Chipset drivers missing, right from the beginning of time?
The Chipset driver is listed in a "funny" place for most Dell PC models these days. It's now typically listed under Utilities rather than under Drivers on the Drivers/Download Support page. In the past it was always under Drivers and I don't know why Dell moved it.
To complicate the matter, Dell is incorrectly listing an AMD Chipset under Drivers on the Support page for the Inspiron 24 5410. This PC doesn't have an AMD CPU, so that driver shouldn't even install. (I've notified my Dell tech contacts about this irrelevant driver.)
robmar1se
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April 4th, 2023 16:00
In reply, Its a new AIO, but frankly we dislike Win 11, from a support aspect its easier to support if all PCs use the same OS.. This therefore was a clean install, downloading all drivers the Dell support app gave. Often find that the SMbus can be an issue, however in the past has been resolved by downloading chipset drivers. Lesson learned with Dell - look at the utilities!
As a matter of interest I spent an hour with Dell Tech support, they had no idea where the SMbus/spi controller drivers were - I have sent the lady yr info!
The BIOS on this system is also a little unreliable - refused to go back to default settings (Ver 1.10).
Thanks again
RoHe
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April 4th, 2023 17:00
Surprising that Windows didn't install the Chipset driver automatically during the clean install, or at least after you booted up and Windows Update scanned for updates.
SupportAssist can frequently overlook the Chipset driver, possibly because it's classified as "Utilities".
How did you try to reset BIOS to defaults? Did you get an error message? Has an admin password been set?
Don't know if you'd want to open the PC up, but one way to reset BIOS is to unplug power cord from PC, press/hold power button for ~15 sec. Then open it up, and remove motherboard battery. Press/hold power button for ~30 sec and then reinstall battery. Close up and BIOS should be back to default settings.
CAVEAT: That assumes default BIOS settings are suitable for your installed hardware and are appropriate for your user environment.
robmar1se
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April 5th, 2023 01:00
Re BIOS, first no other kit attached, yes we could remove the bios battery but wasn't necessary.
Here's what happened:
1. Dell initially indicated that there was a critical update for the BIOS, which was successfully installed, and I mean successful!
2.With the smb/spi issue I noticed the achi/nvme option wasn't ticked. Ahh I said so ticked it and updated the BIOS and restarted updated the BIOS. From then on the system wouldn't boot.
3. Next, was the option to (i) undo the change - no success, (ii) set back to defaults - no success.
4. Decided to reinstall Win 10, which was successful, however the BIOS now does have the ACHI/NVME box ticked.
All very strange, leaves questions as to why it wouldn't boot after the initial BIOS change, and why when reloading win10 why it would - something between BIOS & BCD?
whatever the cause it says this latest BIOS version isn't stable.
Chino de Oro
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April 5th, 2023 05:00
Re: leaves questions as to why it wouldn't boot after the initial BIOS change
Although it's too late, but I hope my answer can clear up your lingering question. Your system may have shipped with SATA operation in RAID mode. After you changed it to AHCI, the HDD/SSD could not boot because it didn't have a proper storage controller driver installed. Usually, it could be resolved by allowing the BSOD (bluescreen) cycling through, on the third boot attempt, it would present you with the Recovery Environment options, selecting start up repair with option 4, system would restart in Safe Mode and gave Windows a chance to self installing AHCI controller driver. Restart again, your system would have booted properly again.
Re: and why when reloading win10 why it would - something between BIOS & BCD?
When you installed operating system again with storage controller already set in AHCI mode, a proper driver would be installed during installation, therefore, it would work after reboot. At this point, if you mess with the BIOS settings and changing to RAID, your system will crash again.
For summary, if you need to change SATA operation mode in BIOS for whatever reason, you will need to boot into Safe Mode right after a change in BIOS, this would give your boot drive a chance to get proper controller driver installed. You can also control the booting to Safe Mode using bcdedit method.
RoHe
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April 5th, 2023 10:00
@robmar1se - @Chino de Oro said it all, and types faster than I do.
Bottom line - stop messing about and start using this new PC. LOL!