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April 30th, 2009 08:00
LSAN zones-- Brocade 7500
HI,
Could anyone please explain regarding the Lsan zones?, Where should i create them?
Any help would be appreciated
Thanks
Could anyone please explain regarding the Lsan zones?, Where should i create them?
Any help would be appreciated
Thanks
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KD8EWE
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April 30th, 2009 09:00
You need a MPR or a FR4-18i blade in the 48K to be able to connect the 2 fabrics - yet keep them unmerged. Just to make it more clear, the other option to scale out, is to connect the 2 switches in either fabrics. If you do this, you are actually merging the 2 fabrics. MPR's restrict the type of RSCN's propgated, with the help of special port EX. You have to designate a port on the MPR as EX, and once u do this, although data frames can pass via the MPR, the RSCN's responsible for fabric merge are suppressed.
To share a target (ex: tape drive) in Fabric 1 in DC1 to a server (initiator) in Fabric 2 in DC2, you need to create a LSAN in both fabrics. Remember
1. LSAN's ideally should be named the same (not compulsary). Naming convention shd follow LSAN_FabricName_InitiatorName_FabricName_TargetName
In my case I will name it as
LSAN_DC1F1_STK3DRV4_DC2F2_host01
2. An LSAN should have atleast one initiator and one target. Ideally have only one initiator and one target and not more, but there is no restriction.
3. And LSAN should have the same members. If u have a 3 DC solution like I have, you will have to create seperate LSAN's to share the same resource to 2 fabrics. For ex if u want to share the tape drive to hosts in DC2-F2 and DC3-F1
LSAN_DC1F1_STK3DRV4_DC2F2_host01
LSAN_DC1F1_STK3DRV4_DC3F1_host80
Puppan Please remember to give points if I answered your queries
Thanks in advance
KD8EWE
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April 30th, 2009 08:00
In other word, A logical network that spans multiple physical fabrics. It allows specified devices from the autonomous fabric to communicate with each other using a FC router without merging the physical fabrics.
- A LSAN zone is a traditional zone with a special naming convention.
- Zone names must start with ¿LSAN_¿ or ¿lsan_¿ or ¿LSan_¿
- LSAN zones are architecturally comaptiable with FOS and M-EOS
- FC Router uses LSAN zones to determine which devices need to be exported/imported into which routed fabrics.
- LSAN zones must be configured in all fabrics where the shared physical devices exist.
- The router performs zoning enforcement for edge fabrics at the ingress Router EX Port.
LSAN Implementation Rules:
- LSAN zone members must be defined using the device Port WWN, Zone members, including aliases, need to be defined using WWPN.
- LSAN zone name on the routed fabrics do not need to be identical, but is recommended for
Administration and troubleshooting.
- LSAN zones in routed fabrics sharing devices are not required to have identical membership. Shared devices must exist in both fabrics LSAN zones.
Once the LSAN zones are enabled, you will be able to check status of LSAN zones and members from the FC Router using the command lsanzoneshow ¿s
Router:admin>lsanzoneshow ¿s
Fabric ID: 1 Zone Name: lsan_zone1
10:00:00:00:98:23:12:11 Exist
10:00:00:00:98:23:ab:cd Imported
Fabric ID: 2 Zone Name: lsan_zone1
10:00:00:00:98:23:12:11 Imported
10:00:00:00:98:23:ab:cd Exist
The output reveals what devices are ¿Exported (Exist) and Imported from all the routed fabrics.
Hope this helps.
puppan
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April 30th, 2009 10:00
Thanks a lot for ur help, i gave u the points, my question has been answered, but i have a quick question for you, you specified Imported and exported, what exactly those terms mean in this context?, and for eg. if i create a Lsan zone in one edge fabric, is there any need for me to create the same zone on other side i.e on the other edge fabric. I mean do we need to have same lsan zones on both the fabrics. if so why? and what about the configurations. Please help me in this regard.
Thanks in advance.
KD8EWE
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April 30th, 2009 13:00
LSAN again: A logical network that spans multiple fabrics. The path between devices in an LSAN can be local to an edge fabric or cross one or more Multiprotocol Routers and up to one intermediate backbone fabric. LSANs are administered through LSAN zones in each edge fabric.Logical Storage Area Network. Enables device and storage connectivity that spans two or more fabrics.
The mechanism by which LSANs are administered. A Multiprotocol Router
attached to two fabrics will "listen" for the creation of matching LSAN zones
on both fabrics. If this occurs, it will create phantom domains and FC-NAT
entries as appropriate, and insert entries for them into the name servers on
the fabrics. LSAN zones are compatible with standard zoning mechanisms.
LSAN device entry: the total number of port WWN entries for all devices defined in all active LSAN zones within a routed fabric.
For example, Fabric 1 has lsan_zone1 with device A & B and Fabric 2 has
lsan_zone 2 with device A & B. Four LSAN device entries are consumed
Hope the above answers your questions, other wise You may have to go for LSAN specific classes or given below the book...to understand it completely.
And there is this help too for further info
There is a very good book available to understand the MPRs and LSAN
Principles of SAN Design Book (2006 Edition) â Josh Judd & Dan Krueger
Available at Amazon and other stores.
Thanks & Regards
puppan
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April 30th, 2009 13:00
yep, i am clear now,. thanks a lot for ur explanation..
KD8EWE
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April 30th, 2009 13:00
LSANs from configuration perspective procedure exactly looks like a zoning. Only difference from usual zones is they must to begin from ¿LSAN _¿ (case insensitive). You need to create such zones in the both fabrics.
FCIDs of devices in different fabrics can coincide. So LSAN zones membership is based only on WWNs and aliases.
Hope you are clear now.
Thanks for the points
gianan.petajen.jayson
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January 28th, 2025 03:18
Hi, Team.
I would like to ask regarding LSAN Configuration because the Virtual Fabric is enabled on SAN Environment.
FID125: DefaultSwitch
FID31: LogicalSwitch(For Host)
FID33: BaseSwitch(Base)
Kindly share please the configuration needed for each FID to ensure the LSAN will work?
DELL-Chris H
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January 28th, 2025 14:28
FID125: DefaultSwitch
switchLSAN <switch_name> <switch_type>
Replace <switch_name> with the actual name of your default switch and <switch_type> with the type of switch (e.g., "Fabric" or "Ethernet").
Example:
switchLSAN default_switch Fabric
FID31: LogicalSwitch (For Host)
switchLSAN logical_switch <switch_name> <switch_type>
Example:
switchLSAN logical_switch host_switch Fabric
FID33: BaseSwitch (Base)
switchLSAN base_switch <switch_name> <switch_type>
Example:
switchLSAN base_switch base_switch Fabric
Additional Configuration:
To ensure the LSAN works correctly, you may need to configure additional settings, such as:
Setting the LSAN mode to "fabric" or "ethernet" depending on your SAN environment.
Configuring the switch ports for the LSAN.
Verifying the connectivity between the switches and the hosts.
Let me know if this helps.