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July 30th, 2012 00:00

Is our configuration a LAN Free Backup Environment ?

Hi,

We are using Brocade 200 FC Switch with CLARiiON CX4 SAN.

We have installed BackupExec 2012 on a Windows Server that is zoned with FC TL2000 Tape Library at FC Switch.

There are some other servers that are connected to the SAN via FC Switch. And we get BackupExec Agent installed on those servers.  We just wonder whether the data are backed up via the SAN or still goes through the LAN ?

Although we are using vRanger for VM backup, my supervisor still installs BackupExec Agent on VMs running on ESXi 5 Host.  We use the same BE Server to backup data on those VMs (In addition to vRanger backup).  Do those data backed up via the SAN or LAN ?

If all backup data goes through the LAN, what is the benefit of using a FC Tape Library ?

Your advice is sought.

Thanks

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July 31st, 2012 18:00

you will need BE SAN shared storage option license.

1) you still need a regular agent too, but if you present tape drive directly to the host, data will travel over the SAN and metadata traffic will travel over IP to BE server. Essentially that server becomes a media server.

2) see #1

3) if you are doing LAN-free backup, data will not be sent to your BE server ..data will be sent directly to the tape library.  This should help

http://www.symantec.com/business/support/index?page=content&id=HOWTO24287

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July 30th, 2012 04:00

LAN Free backup is when you present tape drives directly to the system that is being backed-up. This functionality typically requires a special license.

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July 31st, 2012 18:00

Thanks for your advice.

Is the license required for EMC VNX or BackupExec ?

Besides, from your reply, does it mean that

1) Server (With BE Agent Installed) retrieves data from SAN via FC

2) Data is then passed to the BE Server via LAN

3) BE Server backed up the data to Tape Library via FC.

If this understanding is correct, the FC connection between the BE Server and Tape Library shortens the time to write data from BE Server to the Tape Library.  Is it correct ?

Your advice is sought.

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July 31st, 2012 19:00

Hi,

In other words, what we lack is the BE "Shared Storage Option" License.

Besides, does my understanding of our current data flow (i.e. SAN --> Server --> LAN --> BE Server --> FC --> Tape Library) is correct ?

Thanks again.

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July 31st, 2012 20:00

if you are not using shared storage option, then that looks correct to me. The question is do you need Lan-free backups ?

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July 31st, 2012 22:00

If it doesn't cost much, is there any reason for not opting for LAN free backup ?

Regards,

Tony

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August 1st, 2012 04:00

you don't typically do this for every host in the environment. You do it for hosts where there is a lot of data that needs to be backed up in certain window or for hosts where there are millions of objects and it would make sense to do raw lan-free backups. This makes it a more complex configuration to support.

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August 2nd, 2012 21:00

Sorry for my poor writing.

I just wonder if the price of the BE "Shared Storage Option" is not too expensive, we can just purchase it.  In this way, I *think* all backup will be LAN-Free (Without additional zoning" .... etc).

However, from your reply, it seems that my understanding is not correct.

Just wonder whether the "Shared Storage Option" is applied to individual server OR just 1 license is required on the Media Server ?  Besides, why you mention  that the support becomes complex ?

Your advice is sought.

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August 3rd, 2012 04:00

you will need to talk to your Symantec sales people about the price. 

It is an expensive and complex configuration in terms if infrastructure involved. First of all you will need to add another HBA to your systems just of tape connectivity, you do not want to present tape devices using the same HBAs you use for storage connectivity. Dedicated HBAs will require more ports on the switch, more patches, more cables, more zoning ..etc, you get the point. Lastly you will need a lot more tape drives because they will be shared among the hosts. Talk to Symantec, they can help you size for this LAN-Free backups based on the number of clients, daily backup, retention.

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August 3rd, 2012 15:00

Hi,

Thanks for your advice.  It is really much more compliacted than I think of.

In other words, the TL2000 Tape Library is connected to the FC Switch and zoned with the BE Server ONLY for the speed of transfer of data between them. 

Can we just connect the Tape Library to BE Server with SCSI connection only ?  Will it be a huge performance difference ?

Thanks again

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August 3rd, 2012 17:00

what kind of drives are in the library .. LTO3/4 or 5 ?

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August 4th, 2012 18:00

LTO5

Thanks

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August 4th, 2012 20:00

you only have two options for LTO5, 8G FC or 6G SAS

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