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June 17th, 2024 20:42
XPS 8930, reinstall Windows 11?
I have XPS 8930 desktop PC. I got my PC with Windows 10. After that Windows 10 has been updated to Windows 11.
My question is can I reinstall Windows 11? I need fresh clear operations system.
Is it possible? If yest point me please to "how to .."
Thx in advance


RoHe
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June 17th, 2024 23:46
Yes, you can do a clean install of Win 11. First, you should back up all your personal files on external media, to be safe. Don't forget to backup your browser favorites, email address book, etc. Also make sure you have product keys for all the software you installed, eg Microsoft Office. etc.
Then go here and use Microsoft's Media Creation Tool to create the bootable USB you'll need to the clean install Win 11. When everything is backed up and you're ready to run the clean install, reboot PC and tap F2 when you see the Dell screen. When BIOS setup opens, change SATA Operation from RAID to AHCI. With the Win 11 USB you created plugged into PC, save the change and exit BIOS setup.
This time, tap F12 when you see the Dell screen and select the option to boot from USB. The Win 11 installer should load, so just follow the prompts. You can select the option to keep personal files, but you'll still have to install all your software again.
NOTE: Once you change BIOS from RAID to AHCI, it won't be able to boot from the (old) Win 11 on your C: drive again. So make certain you've backed up everything you want to save first.
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Marmadoc
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June 18th, 2024 02:50
@RoHe OK Thx - I'll try it in few days and let you know. I hope all will be OK.
Just one more - after clean Windows 11 installation what about all Dell software what I have now - originally installed.
Hokie_Shankar
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June 18th, 2024 12:10
@RoHe : Thanks! I may be at this stage with my 8930 as well after all the struggles with my nvidia 4060 upgrade. I was in a "boot/crash/boot/crash" nightmare. Right now I am running windows 10 with selective start and with these two boot drivers stopped. I am OK so far. However, I'd like to get to a clean & healthy state.
You advise "When BIOS setup opens, change SATA Operation from RAID to AHCI"
My C drive is a WD SSD but I also have 2 8TB regular drives. I thought I read in a different post that one should keep RAID in that case. Is that true?
Thanks for all your help.
P.S: I had W11 upgrade from Dell at one point.
Qn: Will this clean boot require a product key?
Microsoft Defender Antivirus Boot Driver
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Marmadoc
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June 18th, 2024 15:39
@Hokie_Shankar Did you solve your problem?
Hokie_Shankar
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June 18th, 2024 16:27
@Marmadoc : Right now everything seems to be working great. No crashes since 6 am. All test software (why so slow, latency monitor) show no issues. CPU running cool.
Things I have not done: Have not installed my HP network printer. Computer started crashing the last time and "why so slow" mentioned that there was some issue with network. I'm not sure.
I have enabled secure boot and my third party Nvidia card seems to be working fine.
I will keep it this way until I know what is causing the boot/crash issue. I have a feeling it is the wdboot - Microsoft Defender Antivirus Boot Driver, but I am not 100% certain
Marmadoc
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June 18th, 2024 17:08
@Hokie_Shankar So. It looks like far away from perfect. This is what I'm scared about. Why all of it is so complicated?
Hokie_Shankar
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June 18th, 2024 17:16
@Marmadoc : I am doing a clean install of windows 11 following the directions above. Hope this releases me from the clutches of Dell. Will report back.
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Hokie_Shankar
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June 18th, 2024 19:24
Installation went fine. Installed all my software and tested them. So far so good. Windows 11 updates are being installed. Fingers crossed....
RoHe
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June 18th, 2024 20:09
A clean install of Win 11 shouldn't require entering the Microsoft product key which is embedded on the motherboard. If Windows says it's not activated after the clean install, log into your Microsoft account and that should allow you to activate Win 11.
Unless those two HDDs are set up as a RAID array, it's OK (best) to change BIOS to AHCI when doing a clean install. Some SSDs don't work well with BIOS set to RAID, notably Samsung and Crucial, but I don't know about WD SSDs.
Any software that Dell installed, eg SupportAssist, Dell Update etc are free to download from the support page for the PC model. But do you really need that stuff? But, if you bought Microsoft Office from Dell along with this PC, you will need its product key which should have been included on a paper card in the box.
Also keep in mind that Windows and/or Windows Update might not install all the drivers for you hardware. So if something isn't working or not working properly, look in Device Manager to see if it marks something with warning symbol or if an "Unknown" device is listed.
Then go to the Dell support site, enter your Service Tag (don't post it here) and it should offer you drivers specific for your hardware. Just install the one(s) you need based on what's not working and/or is marked with a warning in Device Manager.
Why would you think WDBoot is causing crashes?
Hokie_Shankar
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June 18th, 2024 21:18
@RoHe : Thanks for the feedback. I have done a clean install after changing the SATA operation to AHCI.
I want keep away from all the Dell "help" if possible.
I bought Office 365 from Micro$oft directly.
I suspected the WDBoot causing the boot/crash/boot cycle because the Event Viewer showed a ton of errors related to Windows security. The computer worked fine in Safe mode and did not crash. "whocrashed" also said that there was no hardware driver error but a system driver error. So, I disabled the windows security from loading during boot and the crash stopped.
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RoHe
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June 18th, 2024 22:39
@Hokie_Shankar I sure hope you installed some other anti-malware app if you disabled Windows Security. Read this if you're getting Kernel Security Check Failure issues.
Hokie_Shankar
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June 18th, 2024 23:17
@RoHe Even though wdboot was stopped at boot, Defender was running and protecting. That was an interesting article and funnily enough I did ALL of those steps mentioned (many of them thanks to you). That's where the "whocrashed" and "whysoslow" helped. I was afraid that it was ny Nvidia 4060, but it turned out to be not the cause.
I also had severe CPU usage and heat up, ant seemed like defender and Malwarebytes were fighting for resources. Again, I am not an expert but it was my guess and I uninstalled Malwarebytes. I do have a never expiring license, so I might reinstall, now that I have a clean windows 11 installation.
RoHe
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June 18th, 2024 23:19
If you are running Malwarebytes, you need to disable Windows Defender.
You shouldn't have both running at same time. And that might have caused those security errors you were getting...
Hokie_Shankar
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June 19th, 2024 14:57
Hi Ron,
I have run both Malwarebytes premium and defender together for many many years with no issues. They seem to do different things and once defender sees MB, it quits being the AV tool. So, I do not believe it to be my issue. I am running them both right now and so far no glitches, no CPU overload and overheat. I am going to keep this system this way for a while and see if it is stable.
garioch7
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June 19th, 2024 18:40
@Hokie_Shankar ,
The experts in the Malwarebytes Forums recommend that you open Malwarebytes, Settings, and disable Malwarebytes from registering in the Windows Security Center, so that Windows Defender remains active. If you don't, you lose Windows Defender real-time AV protection. Malwarebytes is not a genuine AV product, despite their marketing.
https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/311423-scanning-pdf-files-for-malware/?do=findComment&comment=1633149
You do not need or want Windows Defender disabled.
I hope this helps. Have a great day.
Regards,
Phil