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February 1st, 2019 14:00
Vostro 460, 0Y2MRG, possible upgrades (cooling,OC,cpu fan)
I have DELL VOSTRO 460 upgraded with some components:
- i7-2600
- 20GB RAM
- GTX 1050ti
- 550W PSU SEASONIC GOLD+
I have some questions about possible upgrades:
- Can I put on the CPU some aftermarket cooling, or it’s impossible because stock mobo (DELL 0Y2MRG) is non-standard in some way (spacing of screws, backplate etc.). Can You tell me which aftermarket cooling would be compatible?
- If the above is impossible, can I leave stock radiator on the CPU and replace only 82mm cpu fan to something better and more fancy? I don’t know if mobo would get along with this different fan, although theoretically why not? But I’ve read somewhere that it could be a problem if stock mobo sees non-dell cpu fan.
- Does mobo (DELL 0Y2MRG) fit to any standard case, or it’s non-standard in some way (spacing of screws etc.)? Stock case has tragic ventilation.
- Is there any way to overclocked i7-2600 on stock mobo (DELL 0Y2MRG)? Or it’s impossible due to BIOS restrictions and weak stock mobo power section. Of course this questions is irrelevant if there’s no chance to improve cooling and ventilation.
- Is lower HDD cage in stock case removable or it’s attached to case forever?
I know, that VOSTRO 460 is business class desktop, not gaming machine etc. But it is what it is, I’m searching for some way to improve it without making a complete revolution (new mobo, new case).
Thx for answers.
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fireberd
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February 2nd, 2019 03:00
Answers to come, not all, your questions. First its not able to overclock. Only Dell gaming systems (e.g. Alienware line) are overclockable.
Second, Dell uses proprietary and undocumented front panel case connections. You could put it in a standard ATX case but you would be on your own to try and connect the front panel power and I/O connections. Also, the rear motherboard I/O panel is built into the case on most Dell's, not a removeable insert like standard ATX.
Third, Dell uses custom fans and the BIOS must see these or you will always get a "fan failure" notice on boot up and have to press an F key to continue with the boot.
Can't say about the CPU or the cage, but trying to make the PC what it isn't, wouldn't be easy if its even doable.
hutnik
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February 2nd, 2019 09:00
R U 100% sure? Cause I’ve replaced DELL stock system fan (DSB0912M, RKC55-A00, 0Y08E36R, 9,2x9,2mm, 3pin) placed on the back of my case with NOCTUA NF-A9 FLX and it works like a charm, no “system fan failure” BIOS error.
I’ve also tried and disconnect system fan and leave 3-pin empty and got “system fan failure” BIOS error. So 3-pin system fan connector must be occupied to start the system or BIOS crashes, but it doesn’t have to be stock dell fan, it could be every fan.
Unfortunately I don’t have any 4-pin pwm fan to check it with cpu fan connector and I want to be sure before I buy this fan.
Thx 4 answers, I appreciate.
EDIT: My BIOS is A06, so the newest for VOSTRO 460.
fireberd
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February 3rd, 2019 03:00
The fan issue has been around as long as I've been on the forum. There are exceptions but MOST, especially older than then last two or three years models, get the fan failure notice.
speedstep
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February 6th, 2019 07:00
The fan issue has to do with Pinouts. Dell Fan Wiring is sometimes non standard.
Dell fans are not wired the same way. Otherwise there is nothing special about them. You can remove the Dell Fan from the Heatsink and use a heatsink or you can make sure that the pins for the fan line up with the correct setup so that you don't get fan failure messages from bios.
Both 3 wire and 4 wire fans may have pins swapped around. This is not the same across the board for all dell models or years.
You can use an adapter or re pin the connector.
red = 12v
black = GND
white - rpm/Tach
blue - pwm
P/N: 0WDRTF
CPU FAN: Dell Vostro 460
https://www.amazon.com/Alloet-Connector-Adapter-Converter-Extension/dp/B07HF7YZ5W/
Tesla1856
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February 9th, 2019 10:00
Right. So use it "as is" and start saving for your next machine.
It's also pretty old (by any measurement). :Smile: If you want more speed, try installing a SSD.
Here is what I did to mine.
https://www.dell.com/community/Vostro-Desktops/Vostro-460-XPS-8300-Upgrade-Adventures/m-p/6055730/highlight/true#M1225
hutnik
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February 13th, 2019 12:00
I disagree. My CPU (i7-2600) has 8191 pkt on passmark. For comparison, popular nowadays CPU for lower class gaming pc (i3-8100) has 8062 pkt on passmark. **bleep**, with i7-2600 I can even use GTX 1060 6GB without any bottleneck, so why should I change it for something newer? Only to have something newer? :)
Today I’ve carried out the test with CPU fan. I disconnect DELL fan and connect ARCTIC F12 PWM Rev.2 120mm (this was only one pwm fan that I had). And…. It works like a charm, without any BIOS “fan failure” notice. Success!
So I’ve ordered second-hand NOCTUA NF-R8-PWM (CFM:31,37 ; RPM:1800 ; 17,1 dBA ; SSO ; 12V ; 4-pin PWM ; 80mm) to replace dell stock cpu fan. Maybe the temperatures won’t be much lower but it should be much more quieter. I will let you know how it went.
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March 8th, 2019 21:00