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January 17th, 2023 12:00
Support assist Run as Admin
Having the same issue as reported in several other threads such as: https://www.dell.com/community/SupportAssist-for-PCs/SupportAssist-run-as-admin/m-p/7187490 We as well try to follow best practice and don't allow regular users admin permissions. This causes a problem with Support Assist because trying to run as a regular user errors out and won't install or update new drivers etc. if available.
The solution in the linked thread (set the support assist service to run/log on as an admin user) appears to work to an extent. It will run and update drivers, etc. EXCEPT for support assist itself. If there is an update for support assist, it alerts you and if you click "yes" to run the update, support assist just closes out and nothing else happens.
1) is there a better or more proper way to set support assist to install drivers and other updates without changing the service logon user?
2) if changing the service logon user is still the best solution, is there another service that needs the same change to allow the support assist update process to run when prompted?



jalopeno
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March 16th, 2023 10:00
Still cannot find the service to run as admin that would allow SAC updater to run. The only option I've been able to get to work is to manually go the the website and download Support Assist for home and run the installer. Otherwise, if I get notified SAC has an update, clicking "YES" just closes the application and nothing happens.
jalopeno
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September 8th, 2023 18:56
I was so happy to come across this thread! Finally, someone having the e
So frustrating as usual with Dell and Windows....Crickets...I still cannot get SA to run for our users without remote control and running as admin. Trying to run as a log-on user that is an admin doesn't seem to work anymore either. It just sits at the loading screen and complains "this is taking longer than usual".
ecoai
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November 28th, 2023 11:11
same problem, dell please solve the problem
reese75
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December 31st, 2023 18:32
I'm having the same problem. It appears Dell ignores this forum????
jalopeno
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March 15th, 2024 20:00
I was able to get it to work some of the time by changing the service run as user to a domain administrator. It’s finicky tho and sometimes SA will open and just sit there but sometimes it will open and I can check for updates and install them if there are any.
just go to services, right click Dell Support assist Agent, and under properties > run as choose a user. Enter full domain username (e.g example\domainBoss) and password then restart the service. Try to open SA and see if it works.
deejinoz
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October 28th, 2024 02:54
It is industry standard best security practice for business computers to not be used by people with administrative privileges. This is why Microsoft introduced user rights escalation and the UAC subsystems in Windows almost two decades ago.
Dell are advertising and selling these systems as business computers. If Dell is designing their management software in a way that forces its customers to compromise their security, to be able to run it, then Dell are being negligent in their duty of care.
If systems are compromised because they've had to give their users admin rights, just so the systems can be maintained by Dell's own management software, then a class action, against Dell, should not be beyond the realms of possibility.
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Oogie2022
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December 3rd, 2024 10:51
Thank goodness our management have listened to me and moved away from Dell their support, is atrocious - they returned a repaired laptop to a random address at another part of the country (which we never got back) and had months of fighting with them to get a replacement after the fact. This support assist with local admin rights - what administrator would give users local admin rights - I hope HP will be better, though I must admit on holding my breath.
none101
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January 2nd, 2025 15:28
Dudes, just click the link in the opening statement...you will find a viable solution. I've tested this and it works well for my situation:
Came across this post while looking into this issue for our own deployment. The way I managed to work around was to run the service as an admin, which in turn runs the app as that admin. This is mentioned in another community post, but since this is unanswered and other people might end up on this page in the future, here's how to work around it and run the App as admin:
deejinoz
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January 3rd, 2025 00:48
We should not have to be doing "work arounds" to compensate for poor product design/decisions by Dell.
They are clearly not keeping up with industry standard best practices for security in their product being marketed and sold to businesses.
deejinoz
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January 3rd, 2025 00:54
@none101
We should not have to be doing "work arounds" to compensate for poor product design/decisions by Dell. Also, the "work around" does not work around all problems with the product's poor design. As the OP clearly states, you cannot update the product properly even with the work around.
They are clearly not keeping up with industry standard best practices for security in their product being marketed and sold to businesses.
none101
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January 3rd, 2025 14:46
@deejinoz understood, and agreed (conditionally)...no comments about how SA banners as a 'home pc solution' too?
My point was to simply point out that there is a work around, regardless of how proper it is...some of the replies tend to give the impression that it is impossible to launch SA in admin mode; this is false, is all. And as I stated, it does work "for me", so I am happy to have this rather than nothing at all.
jalopeno
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January 3rd, 2025 16:10
@none101 I've tried this angle as well and it seems to be working better these days. Not long ago, though, it was very inconsistent and would only work some of the time. It's also not good practice and I agree that we shouldn't need to find/use workarounds like this, but at least this can help keep things moving so thanks for sharing.
That said, it doesn't seem to fix the update issue (i.e. when running SA this way, if there is an update to SA available and I click "Yes" to install the update, SA just closes and nothing else happens). Curious if you see the same behavior?
none101
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January 3rd, 2025 16:25
@jalopeno Yes, I do. When it happens, I just grab a copy for local use and then push it to all necessary units. This doesn't happen often enough to be an issue for me...my need is for me to be able to update my remote PCs (many of them), without having to switch users (kind of breaks things that are in process, as we all know); with this workaround, I am able to remotely connect, launch and let SA do its thing for everything else it does fix and then simply disconnect when done. No switching, or rebooting required, unless needed by the updates...that's gonna happen no matter, so does not figure in, for me
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deejinoz
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January 4th, 2025 00:46
@none101 The critical point to this whole thread and the only reason it exists is because Dell have made a poor and arguably negligent choice in their design of this support tool.
If the tool properly supported the endpoint where the users are not admins these problems, troubleshooting, workarounds and threads would not exist and Dell’s customers would not be left compromised.
jalopeno
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January 6th, 2025 15:49
@none101 thanks for confirming.
May I ask how you are deploying? Are you downloading the latest installer from Dell and then using Group Policy or SCCM or something to install the new version?
I have decided to transition to Support Assist for Business PC's which I'm trying to deploy via Intune. It's a bit tricky as there is a dependency on a runtime that needs to be installed separately. That seems to be installing OK but the Support Assist FBPC's is failing for about 2/3'rds of the machines. I'm hoping that the business version will work better for admins but I guess that remains to be seen.