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December 22nd, 2014 06:00
Recoverpoint queries
Hi All,
I am new to RP and have few queries.
1. In RP/SE, we are aware only 2 RP clusters are allowed. So can we use, VNX on production site and clariion 3 series or 4 series on the DR site or should it be only VNX ----> VNX and Clariion ---> Clariion
2. In RP/SE, it supports VNX series also - what does it mean by below ?
Recover Point/SE Continuous remote replication (CRR) enables block protection as well as a file DR solution. This enables failover and failback of both block and file data from one VNX to another
3. What is meant by all snapshots are crash consistent by default ? So what is application consistent and what's the difference between these two ? Does RP provides only crash consistent and not application consistent copies ?
4. It seems the replica journal contains the snapshots of data. Here snapshots means will replica journal contains the actual data or does it mean to the traditional snapshot like having virtual pointers instead of the actual data. If its the actual data in replica journal then why it is called as a snapshot ? What exactly the word snapshot refers to in RP ?
5. I understand that the replica journal has a queue of the writes that needs to be distributed to the replica storage. But why it has the snapshots that has already been distributed to the replica storage ? What is the need to maintain the snapshots of already distributed data ?
6. What is meant by a protection window in RP.
7. RP has many snapshots or bookmarks when the data is replicated. So are these snapshots are created by the RP system itself ? If so on what basis RP system creates the book marks ?
Your help is highly appreciated.
etaljic81
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December 22nd, 2014 06:00
#1 - you can use a VNX and/or CX
#2 - what questions do you have about that statement? RP allows file and block replication
#3 - application consistency is when you have a solution in place that flushed what is in memory to disk. There are solutions that integrate with RP that will provide application consistent PITs (point-in-times) but RP is crash consistent; in other words, RP will not flush what is in memory to disk. However, you do have quite a few PITs to choose from when failing over
#4 - journals contain the actual data. No point in time. Snapshot just refers to how the data looks like at that point it time but it doesn't use snapshots that you are used to
#5 - not sure I fully understand the question
#6 - how far back you want to be able to failback to
#7 - no snapshots. RP uses the journal volumes (PITs)
Idan
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December 22nd, 2014 07:00
As for #5, I believe the question is on the use of the journal undo stream. Before RP writes new data to the replica volume, it reads reads the current data from the replica volume and write it the journal volume, this allows us to roll back the replica volume.
Hope that helps,
Idan
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December 22nd, 2014 07:00
Hi Ernes
Thank you for the replies.
Reg query 5 :
I understand that the replica journal has a queue of the writes that needs to be distributed to the
replica storage. But why it has the PIT that has already been distributed or stored to the replica storage ? What is the need to maintain the PIT of already distributed data ?
And for how many minutes or for how many hours the already
distributed data will be maintained in the oldest data queue ? Is this
dependent on any parameter that we set ?
6. What is meant by aprotection window in RP
Your answer : how far back you want to be able to failback to
So if customer wants to failback to last 3 hrs of data for an application, then for that CG, protection window will be 3 hrs and for another application if he wants to failback to 6 hrs of data then for this CG, protection window will be set to 6 hours ?
So is this the main advantage of using journal volumes in RP as compared to traditional methods of
SRDF and MV where in this feature is not available ?
Reg query 7 :
RP has many snapshots
or bookmarks when the data is replicated. So are these snapshots are created by
the RP system itself ? If so on what basis RP system creates the book marks ?
How are these images are formed at different timestamps.
For example, inorder to test a copy, I can choose any image from the list of images available.
In the list it will show a number of images with the timestamp. Are these images marked at regular intervals by the RP system itself ? If so depending upon what parameter ?
Few queries :
Query 8 : What is a pre-replication image ?
Query 9 : What types of applications or what types of customers wants to go back to the previous PIT very often so that they need to use RP ? Because SRDF and MV were for many years and we managed without going back to hours or days of data very often. So just wanted to know is there any application or customers who wanted to have this RP solution ?
etaljic81
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December 22nd, 2014 08:00
#5 - distributed is what is on the replica. RP constantly distributed to the replica. The most recent PITs will be in the journal
#6 - your example is right on. This is the beauty of RP. Gives you "DVR like' capabilities
#7 - it creates the PITs depending on the write changes. RP is continues replication, it's not scheduled. So it depends on how often the data is updated
#8 - take a look at the RP Admin Guide. I think it's on page 76
#9 - correct. RP comes with compression/dedup as well. "DVR" like capability is what a lot of people like
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December 22nd, 2014 23:00
Hi Ernes,
Again thank you for the replies.
But reg. query 5 :
I am still looking for an explanation on the below : even the screenshot shows the replica or copy journal and it contains the oldest data (Distributed). I understand the concept of waiting for distribution.
The copy journal history consists of snapshots that are already being distributed to the copy storage and snapshots that are still waiting for distribution
Just wanted to understand, what is the need for the already distributed data to be still stored inside the journal.
Replica contains – Already distributed data
But replica journal contains - Already distributed data + Data to be distributed (waiting)
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