DELL 7810 - UPGRADING THE NVIDIA QUADRO K4000 WITHOUT HAVING TO DO MODIFICATIONS

As a starting point, perhaps consider a GTX 1660 Super.  2 slot, fits your power requirements, about 10x faster than the 460 or k4000.  About $330 new.  I was looking at this card, but I splurged and got a 2080 Ti.  Probably would have been happy with the 1660 super fpr cheaper.  To give you an idea of use, I installed the card in a T7910.

@Chet1818 

Upgrade is Quadro RTX 4000

PNY Quadro RTX-4000 B07P6CDHS5

• NVIDIA Turing GPU architecture and ultra-fast graphics memory
• NVidia RTX technology brings real time rendering to professionals
• 36 RT cores accelerate photorealistic ray-traced rendering
• Advanced rendering and shading features for immersive VR

Thanks.

Would the 2080 Ti fit my requirements also? i.e fit in the PC case and power supply 685w no issue? I really want the best picture quali

" 685w no issue? "  incorrect.

1080 TI and 2080 TI have MORE THAN 375W power connector requirements.

Doubling up connectors is not safe nor does it add power to your system.

ONE 8 pin = 375W 300 from connectors and 75W SLOT

BARE Miniumum

375W + 150WThese DO NOT add power

Thanks Speedstep.

I take it you mean the 1080 TI and 2080 TI have excessive power requirements for my 685w powersupply

PNY Quadro RTX-4000 B07P6CDHS5

Can I assume the RTX 4000 power supply requirements are compatible with my 685w & will fit no issue?

Hello,

for just picture quality, and no needs for rendering or other things, I've the feeling that all the abovementioned cards are a bit overkill. Staying with nvidia, part of the trick is configuring the driver settings to use the right color scheme vs the built in windows one

I'm assuming you calibrated your monitor ?

Hi mazzinia

Thanks for your suggestion.

I had already tried this configuration options previously.

@Chet1818 

You said you use GTX 460 which would have dual SIX pin 375W power connection.

parts people D92C9

If your power supply board has the connector for the Dual SIX Pin video power then yes its fine.  I use RTX 4000 in my Dell Precision T1700 with optional 365W power supply.

8 pin = 2 x 6 pin = 300WD92C9 cable goes here

Thanks Speedstep.

The GTX 460 was in another PC - I was just making the point I had better picture quality with it than the Quadro k4000.

I attach some pics of my PC internals for better information. I can see the blue slot has wattage noted if that helps.

this last pic on the connector that plus into the graphics card says 'P8'.

So the reason I suggested the 1660 Super was a very good price performance ratio, and lower power requirements.   The 2080 Ti takes a lot of power and lots of cable.  I have a 1400W PS in my T7910.  I would have gotten the 1660 Super if I did not have the big whomping power supply.   From TechPowerUp.com:

Power

"Being a dual-slot card, the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER draws power from 1x 8-pin power connector, with power draw rated at 125 W maximum. "    As pointed out above, there are several ways to ensure that your cable pin outs support a single 8.  I bought new power cables so that I have no adapters in the box, just the connection at the PS, and at the card.

Performance

One can quip that there are three kinds of lies in the world:  Lies, and benchmarks.  Still, the 1660 Super is about 80% as fast as the RTX 4000.

Cost

I have a friend who has a dual Epyc workstation with four(!) 3090 cards .   What?  You say you don't want to spend $10,000 on four cards and a box and cabling and external power supply?  Ah, then cost IS an issue.  The 1660 Super is about 1/3 of a new RTX4000, and 1/4 of an A4000.  

Obsolescence

Here, the newer 4000 series win.  The 1660 Super has a few years of age: introduced in October 2019.   That said, my 2080 Ti is a year older still (Sept 2018) and it still rips.  

Hi WizardOfBoz2

Thanks for your explanation, thats helpful.

In this post it says the GTX 1660 ti & 1650 super is not compatible.  https://www.dell.com/community/Precision-Fixed-Workstations/Precision-T7810-and-nVidia-GTX1660ti-compatability/td-p/7372711 

I don't know if 1660 super will end the same way & not be compatible?

Have you or anyone any other thoughts?

Gosh, I don't have any direct experience except that my 2080 ti works great.  But I have a 1400w ps. 

It sounds like 1) the 1650/60 ti/super cards work in some 7810s and not in others.  Dell claims they dont work.   The 7810/7910 were introduced in 2014, the same year the nvidia GeForce1000 series was.  Granted, the GeForce1600 was 2018-19, but still. 

Maybe find a compatibility chart and find the fastest 1000 series? If the 1600s don't work I hold no hope for 2000s - but that's what I have and it works!  

Frankly, you could buy a 1660 super and try it and if it didn't work you wouldn't lose too much selling it back on ebay.  That's what I would do.  One question: do you have dual or single CPU?  If dual, add up all your power requirements and make sure that you have enough to spare.

@Chet1818 

@WizardOfBoz2 

@mazzinia 

GTX 1660 ti & 1650  don't do rtx anything which is why they are NOT compatable with a 2060 2080 3060 3080 Quadro RTX 4000 etc. They are considerably less capable than any of the aformentioned cards which is why they are cheap.

Thanks.