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September 2nd, 2024 06:03
High PSU fan speed
Hi evereyone
I am struggeling with very noisy PSU fan speeds. I've had this issue a while back and a firmware upgrade of the 2 power supplies fixed the issue back then. However, there is no FW upgrade available now and there is nothing I can think of to fix the issue.
The machine is a Dell T630 with 2 Delta 1100W PSUs (PN: Y26KX). FW is 00.1D.80. Usually the power draw peak is sub 200W according to iDrac.However, there are occasianly peaks of ca. 300W.
Sometimes a reboot and unplugging the PSU's helps but the issue comes back again. No errors in iDrac reported. System fans are normal.
Power settings:
Power Cap Policy: disabled
Redundancy Policy: Input Power Redundant
Hot Spare: enabled
Primary Power Supply Unit: PSU1
PFC: disabled
Is there a way to find out why the PSU fans ramp up that much? Are there any IPMI commands to check PSU fan data?
DELL-Erman O
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September 2nd, 2024 11:14
Hello,
This could be happening because of poor airflow in the case or a buildup of dust. Also, a faulty part in the PSU or somewhere else in the system might be causing it to draw more power, which makes the fans speed up. Do you see any warning or error on system event logs? Please ensure your iDRAC and BIOS are also up to date.
from here you can review commands iDRAC 8/7 v2.50.50.50 RACADM CLI Guide (https://dell.to/3MrRdoj)
Hope that helps!
mtm.nick
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January 9th, 2025 12:26
I'm also having this issue. PSU fans ramp up to high speed during boot despite low active power draw (~250w). Power from GPU boards are in use with two GPUs. I upgraded from 1100w power supplies to 1600w and am still experiencing loud, constantly high speed PSU fans despite cold ambient temps and no load. I do have 16/18 drive bays populated as well.
I can confirm there is no buildup of dust. The behavior is the same across all 4 PSUs (all with updated firmware) so it doesn't seem likely all are faulty in the same manner.
How would I determine if there is a faulty part somewhere else in the system? Are there specific iDRAC commands in the command reference you sent that are relevant to investigating this issue? Thank you for your help!
Dell-Martin S
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January 9th, 2025 14:09
Hi,
I'm sorry you're dealing with this persistent noisy PSU fan issue. Since a firmware update previously resolved the problem and that's not an option now, we need to explore other possibilities. The fact that the issue persists across multiple PSUs (even after upgrading to 1600W units) suggests the problem likely isn't solely with the power supplies themselves.
Let's systematically investigate potential causes:
iDRAC Monitoring: While you mention no iDRAC errors, we need to delve deeper. Check these aspects via iDRAC's web interface or command-line interface:
Load Distribution: With two GPUs and numerous drives, uneven load distribution could be a factor, even if the total power draw seems low. Try these steps to check for inconsistencies:
Cable Management and Connections:
System Board: While less likely, a failing component on the system board could send incorrect signals to the PSUs, causing them to overreact. This is a more difficult issue to diagnose without specialized tools.
iDRAC Commands (Illustrative Examples - Consult your iDRAC documentation): The exact commands depend on your iDRAC firmware version. These are general examples:
racadm getsysinfo
(Get overall system information, including temperatures and power readings).racadm getpsuinfo
(Get specific information about each power supply).racadm getsel
(Retrieve System Event Log entries).I sympathize with the frustration of dealing with this persistent noise. Let's work through this systematically to find a solution.
mtm.nick
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January 9th, 2025 15:28
@Dell-Martin S Thank you so much for your quick reply. TO clarify a bit, this with with an idle system. There are VMs running but no load anywhere. Note, I have also tried with auto system fan speed (6 fans) and when I ramp the fans down with a script that monitors temp to ramp them back up. The PSU fans are the same in both instances.
On the iDRAC Power/Thermal -> voltages page all voltages are listed as okay. I'm not seeing per-PSU readings for different rails. I installed racadm v9.4.0 (https://www.dell.com/support/home/en-us/drivers/driversdetails?driverid=0992n) but it doesn't have the getpsuinfo command.
# ./racadm getpsuinfo
ERROR: Invalid subcommand specified.
All temperature sensors are listed as OK. CPU temps are 26/27 and inlet temp is 15C
Both are listed as OK, no warnings. One at 1.2A, 122V the other at 0.8A, 122V. Both are part 095HR5A04, FW 00.3D.67.
Unless there are logs to check other than iDRAC event logs / SEL entries, I'm not seeing anything other than power supply and drive insertion/removal which were all intentional.
Removing all 18 drives (I had added two spares I forgot about) did not change the PSU fan speed. Removing both GPUs reduced the PSU fan speed to a mid-level. Not idle/low like during boot but a clear step below the noise level with GPUs installed. I did not try removing only one GPU.
As I mentioned this is at complete idle. nvidia-smi reports power draw of 5W and 7W with a temp of 24C and 26C.
I did secure cables that were accessible without removing additional components. The GPU power cables on the GPU side were re-seated along with a 10GbE and NVMe PCIe card.
I did not observe any cables that showed signs of pinching or damage or would appear to be bent tightly. I did not remove other components to confirm.
Other than a basic multimeter I won't have those required specialized tools.
One note about behavior. On system power up the PSU fans immediately spin up and then slowly reduce speed during POST. As soon as POST completes and while attempting to find boot loaders the PSUs ramp to the high level and stay that way.
Again, I appreciate your assistance and insight into what things to check and probe!
mtm.nick
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January 19th, 2025 13:01
Just checking back in if there is anything else to check or try to keep the PSU fan speed down when the system is idle and power draw low? Thanks!
DELL-Young E
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January 20th, 2025 07:10
Hello I'm afraid I'm not aware of a method that lowers PSU fan speed.
Respectfully,