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May 16th, 2017 10:00
XPS 8910 - GeForce GTX 750 ti GPU
Good afternoon,
I just purchased a new xps 8910 tower last week with an upgraded GPU (GTX 750 ti). The tower came with the GPU connected to a mini HDMI port and a mini hdmi - hdmi adaptor. I have a 144hz refresh monitor that I am looking to take advantage of using displayport (HDMI only allows 60hz refresh), but I cannot access my GPU when using that video source.
My question is - is it easy for me to simply connect the GPU to the audio source I want or am I screwed and stuck with the mini-HDMI as that is what the GPU was attached to when it arrived?
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Dan-H
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May 17th, 2017 12:00
@mtrahan0311, use a DVI-D cable and you should get full resolution and full bandwidth to the monitor.
here's one on amazon for $7
www.amazon.com/.../B0000X0VCY
After you get it working, may consider upgrading the 750ti to a GTX 1060, or perhaps a GTX1050ti if funds are limited. The 1060 will run CS-GO much, much better than the 750ti.
Dan-H
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June 17th, 2017 10:00
dinoboy1, you may get better answers with a new thread describing what exactly you have and are trying to do.
sounds like you have:
8910
750ti
TBD main display
Sony Bravia TBD model 1080P secondary
TBD Games
Which monitor you want to game on.
If you provide exact part numbers for the main display and the Sony display it will be possible to give better answers. If you are wanting to game on the TV, provide that info.
some general answers...
1) 144Hz vs 24 Hz.
144Hz is better for gaming, and it takes a combination of pieces to support this. Monitor + Graphics Card + proper cable + drivers and software setup correctly is needed to get the 144Hz. Not rocket science but it won't just work plug-and-play you need to make sure all the pieces are capable and setup correctly. That said, I'm not sure a 750ti is worth the effort to get to 144Hz
2) Upgrade the 750 ti
Yes, easy. Lots of choices. Budget, gaming resolution and "other factors" drive the choice. If you search the forum you'll see several have upgraded to GTX 1060/1070 and I think I saw a 1080 or 1080ti
In general, if you are gaming at 1080p, a GTX 1060 will do very well and for the cost is a well suited upgrade for the XPS line using the stock power supply. Depending on the specific card, a power adapter cable might be needed but these run $5 to $8 on eBay.
3) Power supply
I'm not 100% sure which power connectors the factory power supply in an 8910 has, but it will support a GTX 1060 no problem, and some will say it works with a GTX 1070, but a 1070 is where I would upgrade the PSU.
My opinion is when I'm upgrading a system and adding a Graphics card that costs $350 to $500, I'll upgrade the PSU to get cleaner, quieter, cooler running stable power. Several threads on upgrading the PSU.
My suggestion: take the info above, fill in the gaps and you should have the info you need. If you are gaming on the TV, see if it has an input better than 24Hz HDMI ( like DisplayPort) or DVI. If you are gaming on the monitor, DVI or DisplayPort will be best, then HDMI.
Search the forum and see what others are having success with.
good luck.
Dan-H
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June 18th, 2017 10:00
My guess is the 750ti and the TV aren't playing nice over HDMI.
You could try a DVI-D to HDMI adapter. They are cheap, I buy them on Amazon in two packs for about $7. It might get your 750ti to work at 60 Hz to the TV.
I would use an HDMI cable spec'd for HDMI 2.0. Not required but should be a slightly better cable.
This might work to get you by.
But for Forza 7, you'll want to upgrade, and I would get, no less than a GTX 1060. comes in a 3GB and a 6GB VRAM. I would get the 6GB.
My brand preference is the MSI Gaming cards with the Twin Frozr fan style. They run cool and quiet and perform well. There are other good cards, but I've had great success with this line over the years.
I think I mentioned, I don't own a 8910 or 8920 and have no firsthand experience with the new case design so check other threads to see what others are getting to fit.
good luck
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May 16th, 2017 16:00
I am having trouble understanding your description/terminology. The GPU or graphics card is plugged into a PCIe card slot and there may be power cables plugged into the graphics card but the GPU is not connected to a mini-HDMI port. There are variations of the GTX 750Ti, the one in my XPS 8910 has three outputs, Dual Link DVI-I, Dual Link DVI-D, and mini-HDMI but no DisplayPort., but Dual Link DVI-D supports 144 Hz. If your monitor has a DVI-D connector use that to get 144 Hz.
It seems in many place you say GPU when you mean monitor.
Dan-H
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May 16th, 2017 18:00
@mtrahan0311
Can you post specifics (brand and part number) for the monitor you want to connect?
@vtoy116
motherboard on an XPS 8910 has a displayport connector on the backpanel of the motherboard. This will work alongside the GTX750ti, but will be driven by onboard graphics of the CPU.
mtrahan0311
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May 17th, 2017 09:00
I appreciate the responses - sorry if i'm a bit confusing - fairly new to desktop hardware concepts. The monitor I am looking to connect at 144hz is the BenQ XL2430 - here is a link to the specs:
www.google.com/.../specs
So I tried using displayport originally, but when I used dxdiag to see what my graphics card was it showed the Intel HD 530 something - I think this is the integrated/onboard graphics of the CPU - I did notice the GTX 750 ti showed up under devices, however I wasn't confident the system would switch over to that card when I try to run counter strike global offensive. How can I determine if that is happening? If it will do that for me, I will just connect my monitor back through displayport - I was just worried I bought an updated GPU for no reason.
vtoy116
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May 17th, 2017 10:00
@Dan-H, so you are saying that the onboard Intel HD Graphics 530 will work with the GTX 750Ti installed. Can you are or somebody else confirm this, because in most systems the onboard graphics is disabled when a discrete graphics card is installed?
If the DisplayPort does work, I am not sure that is the solution because the capabilities of the onboard graphics is limited with the type of monitor described here high refresh rate and assuming high resolution perhaps 4K..
Dan-H
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May 17th, 2017 12:00
@vtoy116, I believe that it is not possible to disable the onboard graphics on an 8910 or 8920. I do not own an 8910 to test this, but I read in another thread the BIOS does not have a way to disable onboard graphics.
On some motherboards you can run both, and on some motherboards the BIOS automagically disables onboard graphics when it detects a discrete graphics card.
mtrahan0311
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May 17th, 2017 13:00
Thanks, Dan-H - for $7, it is definitely worth a try. You feel like I should be able to access the 750ti through that connection (instead of using the mini-usb i'm using now)? Also, I will upgrade eventually but CS:GO from what i've heard is much more dependent on cpu than gpu unlike most games. Also, I come from deep in the 1.6 error so i'm actually more used to the crappier graphics than full on high settings.
mtrahan0311
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May 17th, 2017 14:00
Sorry, I meant mini-HDMI***
vtoy116
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May 17th, 2017 17:00
Hi Dan-H, I do own a XPS 8910 an I do not see an option to disable onboard graphics, but I do not know if the motherboard supports both onboard graphics and discrete graphics at the same time.
mtrahan0311
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May 17th, 2017 18:00
Hi Dan, turns out my monitor came with a dvi-d dual link. Hooked that up and got what I came here looking for. Thank you!
Dan-H
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May 17th, 2017 18:00
vtoy116, I think it is possible to run both at the same time. I have done this on a a non-Dell, Z97 motherboard. On that system I had the choice in BIOS to enable or disable the onboard video, and I enabled it to diagnose a problem on the graphics card.
By having the onboard video as primary, I was able to disable then delete the driver for a GTX 970. Then reboot, have the OS re-discover the card, and then manually install the better driver.
I later went into the BIOS and disabled the on board video.
Dan-H
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May 17th, 2017 23:00
excellent news. btw, here is a link to tuning that game and their opinions on hardware.
http://www.logicalincrements.com/games/csgo
exerpt:
1920 x 1080 (1080p) or lower resolution
We recommend the RX 460 or GTX 1050. Either of these cards will be capable of 144+ FPS at 1080p or lower resolution. Any cheaper cards will sacrifice a lot of performance for only a small cost savings.
If you can find a used R7 370, GTX 750 Ti, or GTX 950, those could be worth getting if they are around half the price of the current cards, and you only need 60 FPS.
Good luck and enjoy the game.
mtrahan0311
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May 18th, 2017 08:00
Thanks again! I will!