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July 29th, 2017 22:00

Upgrade to 4930k and strange ram issue?

Ive been messing with this R4 for 2 days now. I successfully had the GTX 980ti and the Hyper X 16gb 1866 mhz CL10 (4x4) working with the i7-3820. I went ahead and swapped the 3820 with an i7-4930k and its all been down hill since then. 

I've been stuck in a continuous BSOD then boot loops afterwards. If I go into bios it recognizes that I have 16gb of 1866 ram and that I have an i7-4930k as well. Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks.

July 29th, 2017 23:00

I should add the steps ive taken so far to no avail:

-reset cmoss, remove battery all that good stuff.

-1 ram stick at a time in each slot with both the new and old ram.

-I cant even possibly know how many different times I changed bios settings then back to factory bios afterwards.

-the ePSA? program always fails the memory test saying memore limit exceeded I think.

-tried with old gpu hd6850? Or something like that.

- I am on the latest A11 for support for gpu and cpu.

July 30th, 2017 03:00

Hi Ninjasaurus.

are you sure that the BIOS supports Ivy Bridge CPUs? i don't have this PC Model so that's why i'm asking.

when you installed the new CPU, did you check if the CPU Socket Pins are okay? not bent or dirty etc.

6 Professor

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July 30th, 2017 04:00

I do not know the exact issue, but a similar problem happened here: I installed 4 x 2Gb Crucial Ballistix Elite 1866 without issue, paired to 4820k. One day I swapped in Kingston HyperX T1 1866 and I got an odd problem, I forget what happened, but it was a no-go, the PC would restart over & over then just shutdown. Swap back in the Crucial, no problem. Back to HyperX = spazzed out. I have three sets of HyperX, none of it worked. I might suggest switching brands. In the meantime I might set the HyperX speed to 1600MHz if possible, using Bios & / or XMP profile - if no good - try 1333 or 1066

I don't have time to read this post: Aurora R4 fails to POST after RAM swap

This post aurora r4 ram upgrade help suggests that when moving from the Sandy 7JNH0 mthrbrd to an Ivy CPU, 8gb stix are iffy ... but are ok with FPV4P Ivy approved mthrbrd. My FPV4P hates the HyperX though

Taken from post above, no idea if accurate: "FYI the Aurora R4 motherboard does not accept 8gb Ram Modules - you can only use 2gb DDR3 or 4gb DDR3 Modules in configurations of 8gb or 16gb total. I already purchased 4x8gb patriot vipers and the aurora r4 bleeps and flashes red on boot up - Then I found this ftp://ftp.dell.com/Manuals/all-products/esuprt_desktop/esuprt_alienware_dsk/alienware-aurora-r4_User%27s%20Guide_en-us.pdf

July 30th, 2017 07:00

Yea it was the same socket and the bios does recognize it. All of the pins appeared to look ok to me. Thanks!

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July 30th, 2017 16:00

Reinstall old original working RAM. See if motherboard and new CPU are working good first.

July 30th, 2017 16:00

Hey, thanks for the reply. Ive done that even tried single channel, dual channel, 3, 4 and in every single arrangement you could imagine with no luck. Even as far as mixing the two rams. Its always recognized in the bios though.

The latest thing I tried was basically every single windows, Linux and custom rescue disc I could find on usb and boot to it but I still get the BSOD. 

At this point I don't even care about anything thats on the computer I just want it to work. Thanks again.

Amazon.com: Kingston HyperX FURY 8GB Kit (2x4GB) 1866MHz DDR3 CL10 DIMM - Blue (HX318C10FK2/8): Computers & Accessories 

I have this exact ram in 2 sets if that helps any.

July 31st, 2017 15:00

Hey thanks for the reply. I'm getting the same issue with even trying the stock (2x4) ram. It has to be cpu related somewhow since the old one was fine. I just dont know what it could be. I know when I get blue screens its been about 10 different ones in total but most if the time is "whea uncorrectable error" and "system thread exception not handled" if that helps any. Thanks.

July 31st, 2017 17:00

"whea uncorrectable error" can be caused by

- to low CPU Voltage (try to crank up the Voltage a tiny bit)

- high Temps (Cooler not properly mounted for Example)

- BIOS Errors (BIOS Update, Clear CMOS + Power Drain can help)

the other one seems to be a follow up BSOD. most of the Time GPU or Network Card related.

also try to repair eventually damaged Windows Files.

run CMD as Admin

type "sfc /scannow"

July 31st, 2017 23:00

Hey thanks again, maybe I should have added that this was also my first time doing any of this. How would I know if the the cooler isn't mounted properly? The highest temp the cpu made it to in ePSA is 61C, lowest being around 55C I believe. Unfortunately I'm called out to work for a week so ill try your suggestions when I make it back home. Thanks again!

August 1st, 2017 02:00

61 °C seems to be fine for a Package Temperature. it could be just one Core having Temp Issue but i doubt it. to be sure, download and run HWMonitor. it shows Temp for all Cores and Package. you should see big Difference immediately if there is something wrong.

have a nice Week.

August 14th, 2017 20:00

Ok so after trying again multiple times to make it work I just went back to the old cpu. It worked fine after startup repair with a Windows 7 boot disc. So is it possible I didn't install the cpu correctly? Do I need a different driver for the 4930k? Perhaps the 4930k is defective even though it shows up in bios? Any ideas? Thanks.

August 20th, 2017 19:00

Just a bump to see if anyone has any new ideas. Thanks!

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August 20th, 2017 21:00

I doubt I have useful advice, but don't want to see you left stranded either. I pretend a scenario where 3820 is matched with two sticks of old RAM, and if you say that setup works as normal, we'd vouch for the hardware. Bios versions A09 forward are Ivy-E validated. If you then remove 3820, replace with Ivy cpu (assumption is a correct cpu cooler install) and then boot into a blue screen followed by reboot-loops, enter into a stable Bios screen that lists cpu as Ivy, I'd say cpu is installed correctly (bent pins etc would probably lead to no bootup at all). I'd then say that if the cpu cooler was failed or mis-installed, you could idle at the stable Bios screen as a test for 10minutes let us say, and if no shutdown occurs, you could have faith cpu cooler is on correctly. If you then restarted PC and booted immediately into blue screen (again), were it me I would shutdown PC. I would find a spare hard drive and attempt to boot into Win7 DVD and attempt OS install, see how far it can proceed; it either will or won't complete. If it will complete, I'd build my new OS around it ***. If it fails install, I would find a local PC shop who has the means to test the Ivy cpu for you in a different mthrbrd, hopefully for a small fee

*** edit: if OS completes install ok, I would shutdown / boot into original drive as a test. If older drive spazzes out, I would abandon it & build OS on new drive, if that makes sense

Purchasing the cheapest socket 2011 mthrbrd of any brand/model would be the only other option to test Ivy, if a local PC shop is out of the question. After testing complete, u can resell it. For most owners, when buying a pricey used cpu, it is difficult to know if it was in fact working at time it was purchased if issues result after it gets there, unless you have spare mthrbrd of same socket type as testbed etc. A new cpu from unopened box has virtually no chance of being DOA, but stranger things do happen

If you have A11 Bios, have working RAM, have working Ivy Cpu (after testing it in different mthrbrd), have cooler installed correctly, I'd be hard-pressed to diagnose further, and my thoughts - at least here when I pretend this is all happening to my stuff - would be to invest in a new mthrbrd (sell old one with 3820 as a working package), purchase part# FPV4P / 8FMMC (R4 Ivy mthrbrd)

I'll assume you have part# 7JNH0 and will want the Ivy-E 'approved' board instead so as to eliminate doubts. I would of course consult local PC shop to test old mthrbrd for me before replacing it (if they have an Ivy cpu as a tester there). I would want my new 1866 RAM tested with the 3820 installed I suppose. Let us know if anything I said was of use

8FMMC (aka FPV4P) Motherboard for Ivybridge E i7-4820K, i7-4930K, i7-4960X

  • when given a choice I would purchase FPV4P, 2nd wave Ivy mthrbrd

C5D9P (aka 7JNH0) Motherboard for Sandybridge i3-2120, i7-3820, i7-3930K, i7-3960

  • 7JNH0 would have been installed in all of the 1st wave R4s w/Sandy cpu ... all of these should be able to have an Ivy cpu work in them so long as A09 or higher Bios is flashed 1st
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