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Inspiron 7700 AIO- faulty upgrade to Win 11 prevents reverting to original Win 10
I am the 2nd owner of this PC and have the original purchase config doc from the original owner.
This PC was configured in March 2021 with Win 10 Home.
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Original owner upgraded PC to Win 11 in Sep 2022.
Upgrade was faulty and/or incomplete for the following reasons
- No Restore Point was created to permit fallback to Win 10.
When attempting to launch an individually downloaded app or driver, I get the error message:
**PC is missing the app to open this ‘res’ link.** (See image above.)
I need to revert to Win 10 but am unable to do so because:
-Cannot launch the Dell-USB-Recovery-Tool-Application_VYFNW_WIN_2.3.7012.0_A00,
which will restore the PC’s original OS and drivers.
[How to get a free Windows (or Linux) recovery image for your OEM PC | ZDNET]
How to Download and Use the Dell Operating System Recovery Image in Microsoft Windows
Dell Note: Windows 11 is ONLY supported with the Automated by **SupportAssist option.**
- Cannot launch the Dell-Update-Application_P0KKN_WIN_1.11.1.0_A00, which appears to have something to do with the ability to launch individually downloaded apps and drivers, such as the Dell-USB-Recovery-Tool.
- Dell Note: Windows 11 is ONLY supported with the Automated by **SupportAssist option.**
This PC seems to be caught in an infinite loop in which Win 11, and Dell SupportAssist as the only gatekeeper for Win 11, prevent launching the apps needed to revert to Win 10.
NJDave
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October 7th, 2022 12:00
Since you have Windows installation media, we can now go ahead and try using diskpart to reinitialize both drives. (We used to call them "disks" back in the day, so excuse me if I lapse.) I believe this will work, but we can try a little differently if it doesn't.
Boot the install media. When you're presented with the Windows Setup screen (with Windows logo), hit Shift-F10 to bring up a command window. Type "diskpart" and wait for the "DISKPART>" prompt.
Type "list disk" and enter. You should see both drives listed, something like:
DISKPART> list disk
Disk ### Status Size Free Dyn Gpt
-------- ------------- ------- ------- --- ---
Disk 0 Online 931 GB 931 KB *
Disk 1 Online 476 GB 476 KB *
Type "select disk 0" and enter, then "list disk" again. You should see the same list except with a star in front of the selected disk. Make sure the star is on disk 0 before proceeding.
DISKPART> select disk 0
Disk 0 is now the selected disk.
DISKPART> list disk
Disk ### Status Size Free Dyn Gpt
-------- ------------- ------- ------- --- ---
* Disk 0 Online 931 GB 931 KB *
Disk 1 Online 476 GB 476 KB *
^ (Note the star next to disk 0)
Type "clean" and enter. This should erase everything on the disk including the GPT low-level format. You should get the message
DiskPart succeeded in cleaning the disk.
Type "list disk" again and I believe you will see the same list with disk 0 still selected, but without the star in the "Gpt" column.
Repeat all the above steps, but this time, select and clean disk 1. Ensure that disk 1 is selected (starred) before entering the "clean" command.
With that done, you can close the command window. You should be able to proceed installing Windows via either method, but since you've already started, it should be easier and faster to proceed with Windows installation from the Microsoft media. Install in the unallocated space on Drive 1. Don't worry about the drive numbering. The SATA drive will always be numbered below the NVMe SSD. The system won't get confused; it will boot from the drive that it sees is bootable.
After installation is complete, you probably won't see the D drive until you re-initialize it from the Computer Management utility. That's expected so don't worry.
JOcean
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October 1st, 2022 16:00
Have you attempted a clean install yet?
csrote
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October 2nd, 2022 10:00
Thnx for reaching out. As you might have seen from the link above, ZDNet recommended using the Dell Recovery Image for this specific PC. However, I am not able to launch the Dell app used to create the recovery image.
If I were to do a "clean install" [exactly how is that defined?] where would I obtain or how would I demonstrate that I am entitled to a license for Win 10?
I am concerned that I might do a "clean install," and then need to pay for Win 10.
NJDave
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October 2nd, 2022 13:00
You shouldn't have any problems with the Windows 10 license, which is recorded in the UEFI firmware. (This instruction can extract the key, though you shouldn't need it, and I'm not sure if it changes during the upgrade to Windows 11.)
You have some installation/restoration options you haven't yet mentioned, including:
After installation Windows should self-activate, but to be sure, in Settings you can go to System>Update & Security>Activation and "Activate Windows now".
JOcean
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October 2nd, 2022 14:00
@NJDave is spot on. To do a clean install download the media creation tool for Windows 10 here. It will create a bootable Windows 10 installation flash drive. Windows 10 will auto activate, you do not need to buy a copy of Windows 10. This video at YouTube may help as it is a great tutorial.
csrote
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October 6th, 2022 09:00
Thnx NJDave for responding. I likely will not get to this until the weekend, but I did try to launch SupportAssist v3.11.4.29 to attempt to see the menu you are referring to.
Although I have run SupportAssist twice before, this time it says to Update Now. When I try to update I get an error message reading,
"This PC is not supported. Only for Dell and Alienware PCs." I am not able to run SupportAssist without the update. Weird!
Let's not forget I have the original Dell Configuration order documentation which shows Win 10 Home and that it really is a Dell PC!
You wrote, "Run SupportAssist OS Recovery from the F12 preboot menu. (I believe the system supports this, but it should be plain upon looking at the menu whether it does or not.)
I did not understand your advice, especially since I have not seen any references to F12 in previous uses of SupportAssist. Or are you saying to press F12 while booting to enter the Bios (or UEFI -- showing my age here...) and then what?
csrote
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October 6th, 2022 13:00
This 27-7700 has 512GB SSD for C drive and 1TB HD for D drive.
I used NJDave's SupportAssist OS Recovery from the F12 preboot menu approach.
All went fine until now, when I discover that the D Drive is a BitLocker drive for which I have no 48-digit recovery key. Tried to find it in my Microsoft Acct. I doubt the key is there but don't know because, having no previous experience with Bitlocker Keys, while looking for the key info I guess I changed my security info -- and then cancelled the change. Now I have no access to security part of account for 30 days!
How was BitLocker activated on my device? See https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/finding-your-bitlocker-recovery-key-in-windows-6b71ad27-0b89-ea08-f143-056f5ab347d6.
If I repeat the restore process, is there some way to prevent the unwanted BtLocking of the D drive?
NJDave
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October 6th, 2022 15:00
Ouch. Okay... I presume you just want to reformat the D drive, correct? Do you have files on it that you wish to save? Are your user libraries on it?
If all you want to do is wipe and reformat it, you should be able to CAREFULLY use the diskpart utility to wipe the disk entirely without needing a key. I'm not sure if you'll have similar problems with the C: partition on the boot drive. Perhaps that's next!
If you still have Windows on the system, could you please check Bitlocker settings (search in the Control Panel) to see if the D drive is the only one encrypted?
I'm hesitant to go ahead with diskpart steps because I'm trying to think ahead to what you'll find. It might be easier to use standard Windows installation media, just because you can open a privileged command window and run diskpart from there, wiping both drives. Actually it would be a really good idea to have this media on hand anyway, just in case things go south with the Dell utility. You need a USB key of 8GB or more, or alternately, you can burn a DVD.
csrote
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October 7th, 2022 02:00
Found this 16-page thread from 2020. Final 2 posts have the solutions:
https://www.dell.com/community/Windows-10/BitLocker-need-a-key-but-I-never-installed-it/m-p/8257025#M18133
csrote
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October 7th, 2022 10:00
Downloaded media creation tool for Windows 10 here. Booted from USB stick. Got as far as deleting partitions. PC has 512GB SSD for boot, This appears to be Drive 1. Also 1TB HD which appears to be Disk 0. This made me nervous. Shouldn't the boot drive be Drive 0?
I've taken photos of the various screens which will attempt to post in another Reply. Here, will provide the captions for the photos. Note GB vs MB.
Drive 0 Partition_1_MSR_128_MB. Drive 0 Partition 2 BitLocked_931_GB.
Drive 1 Unallocated Space 477_GB.
I deleted the Drive 0 partitions (this is the D Drive HD). Now stuck in loop with error messages. Have taken photos of these screens, too!
Download SupportAssist OS Recovery Image. Said it would reboot in 1 second but did not.
I did not notice this error message in upper left corner:
BlInitializeLibrary failed 0xc000009a.
I powered down and restarted manually. Repeated previous steps
Checking Media Presence.
SupportAssist Scanning the System [again!]
Download SupportAssist OS Recovery Image [again!]
Error message in upper left. BlInitializeLibrary failed 0xc000009a.
I've been getting "private" messages from Customer Suppport. Is this an attempt to charge for support? Please advise on all of this!
27-7700 AIO PC currently out of commission!
csrote
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csrote
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I made it as far as Disk Mgmt!
Notice the C drive is Bit-Locked. The current version of OS install required the MS Account. Supposedly I can change to a Local Account at any time. Meanwhile my MS acct secure area is locked for the next 30 days. What do you advise I do? Just wait the 30 days before attempting to remove Bit Locker?
D drive HDD: use MBR or GPT partition?
Thnx and off to bed!

NJDave
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October 7th, 2022 22:00
It probably doesn't matter too much for a 1TB internal data drive, but you'll want to use the newer GPT standard for the D drive.
Now... I have to admit I hadn't read the info on this automatically applied version of BitLocker before now. I've never seen it before and need to read up on it. I suspect Windows may immediately turn on BitLocker on the D drive, too, as soon as you initialize it or create a file system.
Having BitLocker turned on by default can be desirable (as Microsoft explains). But you really want it in your control.
I'm a little in the dark as to what state your Microsoft account is in or how it affects your ability to manage BitLocker. Even though your account security info is locked up for a month, you were presumably able to log in to install and activate your system. I don't believe you need the BitLocker key to suspend or disable BitLocker as long as you're logged in as an administrator. You would need the key to, say, migrate an encrypted drive to another system. If you have no problems accessing your data on the drives, you may just want to leave BitLocker protection enabled.
csrote
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October 10th, 2022 10:00
Many thanks to NJDave! The Diskpart and Clean instructions got me thru the roadblock. I had one critical App and another key Gadget that did not work under Win 11. PC now working great with Win 10.
MS is certainly herding us into a mandatory MS Account for authorization to use Office and to deal with BitLocker. All new Windows PCS are now shipped with BitLocker on. I found the following links helpful in getting my thoughts organized so I could move forward:
https://www.majorgeeks.com/content/page/how_to_retrieve_an_embedded_windows_key.html
https://www.windowscentral.com/how-do-clean-installation-windows-10
https://www.windowscentral.com/how-suspend-bitlocker-encryption-perform-system-changes-windows-10
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/how-to-remove-bitlocker-encryption-in-windows-10/27ed49b6-0a67-4574-b31f-3e02a5f8f121
https://www.manageengine.com/products/os-deployer/help/how-to-disable-bitlocker-encryption.html
https://www.howtogeek.com/805225/disable-bitlocker/
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/finding-your-bitlocker-recovery-key-in-windows-6b71ad27-0b89-ea08-f143-056f5ab347d6
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/security/information-protection/bitlocker/bitlocker-device-encryption-overview-windows-10
Scroll down the page to get to: BitLocker device encryption
https://www.howtogeek.com/442792/how-to-create-a-local-account-while-setting-up-windows-10/
csrote
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October 11th, 2022 05:00
BTW, in my other post, with Win 11, the Integrated Webcam worked in Zoom and Camera, but not in Skype.
Now, with Win 10, it also works in Skype!