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November 29th, 2011 12:00

Which provides best Application/Equallogic Performability ? Intel || Broadcom || qlogic NIC/TOE/HBA

Hello,

I don't know about you but determining if/when an equallogic solution is capable of meet its service level agreements in a large scale mission critical environment has been frightning.... I am so used to not having to worry about storage ... it used to be a black box that as a Production QoS engineer I could count on it always being there for me .... I certaintly never worried about getting an alarm  at 2:00 in the morning saying the storage is down.... come to think of it i don't think we had any specific bmc patrol alarms for storage... well enough back story.....

My current problem/conflict is select the best 1g and 10g NIC for my farm of R610s....  

Intel I/OAT QuickPath QuickData .. oh my goodness my head is going to explode with the option matrix ... looks great ... I got a good refs :

http://blog.serverfault.com/2011/03/23/performance-tuning-intel-nics/ 

http://www.principledtechnologies.com/clients/reports/.../1GbiSCSI0509.pdf

- oh but wait don't forget your Intel® QuickData Technology Device Drivers

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/detail_desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=12193

- before you do that you need your prowinxx.exe

http://www.intel.com/support/network/sb/cs-006120.htm

- ut oh.. it is not just me

http://itatmurray.blogspot.com/2008/04/windows-2008-server-equallogic-mpio.html

Surely Intel can save the day... oh wait Dell and Intel need to talk to each other:

Another split brain hangover :http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/07/23/dells-trouble-kicking-the-intel-habit/

Wait for it ..wait for it ... negative ghostrider

http://communities.intel.com/thread/13683

http://communities.intel.com/message/116311

Ok this is it ... i found the holy grail ..wow this is really well written:

http://download.intel.com/support/network/sb/intelioatandwindowsserver2008whitepaper.pdf

If you can decode the following sentence ... I bet you wrote http://www.ryanheise.com/cube/ (pretty cool)

If Windows Server 2008 detects a NIC with both DMA
and TCP offload capability, TCP Chimney Offload will be
preferentially used and NetDMA will not be used. Since
NetDMA is essential for using Intel QuickData Technology,
that capability becomes unavailable in a TCP offload
environment. However, RSS can still be used across all
TCP connections, including those that are offloaded
through TCP Chimney Offload.

and don't forget about all the registry settings you can 'tweak'

I highly recommended : http://www.speedguide.net/downloads.php to keep from going on ridicoulousness

Don't be dismayed there is a whole site :

http://intelethernet-dell.com/ 

that will help you find oz....

At least they could have an email of someone ... I can 't find it ... wait...wait...

I feel like I just found the code that unlocks goat on Lego Pirates of Carribean... (for my son )

NOTE: I/OAT is disabled by default in the BIOS setup menu. To enable I/OAT in the BIOS,

  1. Enter the BIOS setup menu.
  2. Go to "Integrated Devices".
  3. Select "I/OAT DMA Engine" and enable it.
 NOTE: Intel® I/OAT version 3 is not supported on Dell R710, T610 and R610 platforms with Windows.

You got to #XX kidding me ... You mean I just bought 50 servers with intel NICs ....

Broadcom here I come ... All I wanted is Simple, Reliable Performance for iSCSI Connectivity

http://download.intel.com/support/network/sb/inteliscsiwp.pdf

What a waste of time ... who cares about performance after reading this:

http://web.archive.org/web/20100412190315/http://www.tuxyturvy.com/blog/index.php?/archives/69-Equallogic-Eats-Our-Data.html

I am sure glad all this hassle is going to the cloud.... please don't loose my data..please don't loose my data ...please don't loose my data....

I am not sure which side anybody's on except their own.

"Just making sure what side your on"

Maj. Gen. Stanisław Sosabowski getting the orders that his dropzone is 'just under 8 miles ' from arnhem....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RqJGoFljIA&feature=related

iSCSI - I Surely Can't Stand Intel ...broadcom here I com...

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/detail_desc.aspx?agr=Y&DwnldID=12193

http://download.microsoft.com/.../8/E/D/.../HSN_Deployment_Guide.doc

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/network/dd277646

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb649502%28v=sql.90%29.aspx

http://blog.serverfault.com/2011/01/24/what-to-do-about-storage/

cool microbenchmark study

http://nowlab.cse.ohio-state.edu/publications/conf-papers/2007/vaidyana-ispass07.pdf

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November 29th, 2011 13:00

We have some reference configs that might help you determine the best settings and setup for your environment.  This one talks about 10G with EqualLogic and R710 servers with are the big brother to the R610's. i.dell.com/.../reference-architecture-hyper-v-rack-servers-equallogic-10gbe-iscsi-storage.pdf  

Are you looking for help with 10G or 1G iSCSI?

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November 30th, 2011 03:00

Lance,

thankyou so much for your reply ... those are great documents but it seems like the intel i/oat technology works great in a vmware or linux environment...

I am looking for reference documents with respect to windows 2008 r2 physical and hyper-v....

based on the release note as formentioned there is no support for intel i/oat on windows...for the r610 and r710.... and or the blade servers....

I can tell you that i was successfully enabled intel i/oat on an old dell 1950...following the instructions.... wow it is faster then the r610 we have..... even though the cpu and memory are  no match.....     there seems to be a correlation between the intel 5000 chipset ia38.....

i even called intel support about the question...they said they couldnt help because the intel cards are oemed... :-(

this has been a 3 months quest to get Intel i/oat working for my r610s ..... as you can probably tell i a little bit frustrated.....  I called equallogic support and they say it should be supported...they even sent me a support matrix excel spreadsheet.....

is there anyway that you could help figure out how (or whether is even possible) for r610 to take advantage of inte/ i/oat ....  Our 10g systems are hyper-v and I am very concerned that  without this .... the burden of iscs tcpip processing will cause performance issues that will effect the whole machine.

i have high frequency trading going on these servers.... every cpu unneccessary cpu interupt is the difference of doing 60,000 trades a sec vs the target of 80,000 trade/sec ..... this is nanoseconds

I a huge fan of dell .... and have scoured the earth to find a soltution to what i believe should  a straight forward question......

It honestly makes me question how long it will take to get a solution once we go into production.....

If you find a way to reassure me and probably the community that dell is a global  solution provider

that enables business to solve their business problems ... not a local optimization provider of  optimized components that assumes that when they are put together they behave  as a optimized system  .....    

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November 30th, 2011 09:00

Let me see what I can dig up for you.  It might take me a few days to get something so please be patient.  

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February 13th, 2012 06:00

We also ran into this issue several years ago with Dell.  They do not have the option to enable NetDMA in the BIOS, although the hardware supports NetDMA.  There is the ability to make this change to the BIOS on a live system in Linux and it works without any issues.  Although we esculated the issue many times, we were never able to really get anywhere and none of the BIOS updates have allowed this option to be enabled.

They did get around to adding  "NOTE: Intel® I/OAT version 3 is not supported on Dell R710, T610 and R610 platforms with Windows." to their support documents....

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